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Does race/gender exist (in terms of the Absolute)?

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2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Social construction is about what society tells you. There are different levels of social construction. For example, all words and symbols, all concepts, are socially constructed. That includes words like biology, genes, genitalia, chromosomes etc.. You got all of those from society. 

Another form of social construction is more about how you relate to a certain concept. For example, society tells you that a person of a certain gender expresses themselves a certain way (looks, expressions, dress etc.). This can sometimes be in conflict with what their sex is (sex does not equal gender). This causes confusion because society also tells you that gender is based on sex. But notixe how that is also something that society tells you, hence it's a social construct.

You guys are engaging in mental masturbation and drawing conclusions which has absolutely nothing to do with reality.

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@r0ckyreed Who needs to reference the absolute my dude. Within the domain of relative, gender and race are of a weaker existence than a tree or rock. 

Gender isn't the same as sex. And infused and within race is a bunch of cultural and collective identity shit. 


Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.

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2 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

You guys are engaging in mental masturbation and drawing conclusions which has absolutely nothing to do with reality.

Back at ya ;)

Any concrete points you have on that? (btw I fixed some clumsy formulation in my previous comment).

Edited by Carl-Richard

Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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What exists? Or more practically, what's 'real' and what's 'imaginary'?  I can see all sorts of people in my direct experience, everyone is unique, a different colour, shape, height, accent etc. Even the distinction between humans and other species is relative, according to the genetics. But this isn't very helpful for everyday life, so we create conceptual categories to group people (& other things) into collections according to how we want to classify the world. Male/female, black/white, western/eastern, child/adult, able/disabled etc. 

The problem seems to be that we aren't very conscious of the difference between actual reality, and our conceptual categories which we've made up (socially). We open our eyes in the morning and the undifferentiated primal unified reality is quickly filtered by our minds through the conceptual matrix by and becomes 'the world of things'. It happens so fast and often that we don't even notice it any more.   

Of course this distinction between reality and imagination is another duality, which presumably collapses at some stage of conscious development, but I'm not quite there yet. 

Edited by snowyowl

Relax, it's just my loosely held opinion.  :) 

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