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Why Do Only Leo Told Us About 5-meo-dmt?

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Why do only Leo told us about 5-MeO-DMT?
This thread is not about enlightenment.
I mean this cool thing was there all this time and no one did tell us about it.
I mean here 5-MeO is not a psychedelic, this is a code word,
which could mean anything.

For example all modern prorgamming tutorials are completely fucked-up,
and not only that, but there is an obvious solution for it.

So first time when I came up with the ideas I was like "What's the catch?
It's so easy, why no one made it before? That has to be a mistake."
Of course the only way to know is actually try to implement it, but...

The point is that there is some things which is easy to do, obvious, extremely efficntly, but no one have done it yet.

The questioin is huge "WHY?", why 5-MeO(here as a code word) exists?

P.S. I not talking about 5-MeO.
I am useing 5-MeO to explain the phenomenona.

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I am really gonna miss it, because it is not legalized where I live :(  

I think the reason why people, in general, do know about Truth is because Truth path is very hard to take. It takes massive responsibility to know Truth. 

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- Relatively recently discovered

- Ridiculously powerful, way too heavy for most people, thus doesn't spread easily

- Potential for bad trips if one cannot let go (perhaps not really a factor at high doses)

- No fancy things like seeing hyperspace (entities)

- Anti magic pill bias ('no drug can really help you significantly on the path to enlightenment')  

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Any mainstream narrative has to be scalable to the masses.

Imagine that tomorrow CNN came out and revealed the magic of 5-Me0 DMT, suggesting everyone should take it. What would happen?

Chaos. You'd have people overdosing, parents freaking out that their kids that are going to start doing drugs, people not showing up to work because they've seen God and freaked out, people questioning their religious and scientific beliefs, people breaking the law to order drugs (5-Me0 is illegal in the USA), etc. All sorts of misuse and unintented side-effects would occur. It would be insanity.

Suddenly CNN is to blame. You're the president of CNN. Are you still going to print that story?

No way. It's not a scalable idea because it's too nuanced. You can't just blindly tell people to go take 5-Me0. There's a proper context with which is must be taken.

Why do you think Leo withheld the name of the drug before he released the video detailing the nuances and safety preconditions? Because he knows that with his level of influence, if he isn't careful, he could really fuck up people's lives.

Now realize that Leo's audience on YouTube isn't even close to the size of a mainstream media outlet like CNN. And the average person watching CNN is probably way more unconscious than a person who closely follows Leo.

The result is that all the best shit tends to remain slightly out of the eyes of the mainstream. And it probably will be that way for a long time. Whenever it does, there always is a clash. This is where the idea of "controversy" comes from.

The internet is incredible because it allows these ideas to spread for those we have the desire to find it. You can't sweep it under the rug anymore because everyone has a voice. And it someone finds some cool shit like 5-Me0, word is going to get around.

 

 


 

 

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Edited by Mikey

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you could ask the same thing about shrooms, why hasn't any big media group talked about shroom's ability to give you awakenings. But the problem is that it's illegal, and after the war on drugs, there is a huge (but inaccurate) stigma against drugs in general.

it would not suprise me if it was proven that 5-meo-dmt was less dangerous than alcohol.

Shrooms are less dangerous than alcohol: 

and so its highly likely that 5-meo-dmt is less dangerous than alcohol. Don't forget, psilocybin is similar to DMT on a molecular level.  But people will still be against shrooms and dmt purely because of the bad stigma attached to it.

Its the same thing as racism. Everyone once thought black people were stupid, but of course that is complete nonsense, like the stigma against consumption of natural drugs like cannabis, dmt and shrooms. 

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17 minutes ago, Wormon Blatburm said:

@Outer They have not been studied enough.  If they were they would be implemented in therapy, etc. Also do you think a wise man would recommend a wide range of people to use psychedelics? Of course not. 

Check out MAPS: http://www.maps.org/

They are a government sanctioned medical research program which is using psychedelics for therapy, and very successfully.

In the next few decades, psychedelics will be used legally in the USA and Canada for therapeutic purposes, because science definitively proves it works, and works well. Just a matter of time.

5-meo has been used for therapy a lot in the past. It's highly effective. See Ralph Metzner's work.

It's all been well-studied for decades. People are just ignorant of the results.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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I'm not sure if this has been posted somewhere on here already but I think it's relevent to this whole psychedelic topic. This guy actually concludes that study in to this area of human psychology could be the key to the future of our species. Very interesting. So many studies being done in this field now with identical findings.

 

Edited by FindingPeace

“If you correct your mind, the rest of your life will fall into place.”  - Lao Tzu

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its a lot safer than what you think it is. MUCH more safe than alcohol.

You have to be careful that people will take it literally what you say in any circumstance, anywhere in the world. Firstly a "government sanctioned medical research program" is going to use properly quality controlled processes and tests. All the test kits banded around such as by Leo are basically checking you haven't been ripped off and sold a bag of crack or something else. Where the substance is illegal (most of the world) it's made by the same people that churn out other drugs, and you hear stories when they get the purity wrong, or the whole bloody formula. There are no checks for other contaminants such as heavy metals or toxins. And then there are unsavoury conditions under which the items are made and stored, and other bacteria can be introduced. If you're buying this off the guy on the street corner, where do you think he shoves this stuff when the police are coming up the street?

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On 03.10.2016 at 6:42 AM, Parki said:

@electroBeam Nope, it's ligal in Russia and as far as I know in Mexico too.

As a lawyer, I warn you again - 5-MeO-DMT and DMT are both illegal in Russia. You can get up to 15 years in prison for it. I can show you the real court cases if you want.

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On 10/3/2016 at 6:58 AM, FindingPeace said:

I'm not sure if this has been posted somewhere on here already but I think it's relevent to this whole psychedelic topic. This guy actually concludes that study in to this area of human psychology could be the key to the future of our species. Very interesting. So many studies being done in this field now with identical findings.

 

 

He looks like Tim Cook, Apple's CEO. 

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@Parki its because theres a huge stigma against psychedelics. So its rare to be able to get them and telling people to take it makes you lose credibility for some people because people think its bad to recommend psychedelics based on what they learned in school.

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On 10/4/2016 at 7:58 AM, Neo said:

You have to be careful that people will take it literally what you say in any circumstance, anywhere in the world. Firstly a "government sanctioned medical research program" is going to use properly quality controlled processes and tests. All the test kits banded around such as by Leo are basically checking you haven't been ripped off and sold a bag of crack or something else. Where the substance is illegal (most of the world) it's made by the same people that churn out other drugs, and you hear stories when they get the purity wrong, or the whole bloody formula. There are no checks for other contaminants such as heavy metals or toxins. And then there are unsavoury conditions under which the items are made and stored, and other bacteria can be introduced. If you're buying this off the guy on the street corner, where do you think he shoves this stuff when the police are coming up the street?

Pure psychedelics are safer than pure alcohol. Contaminated psychedelics and contaminated alcohol are both unsafe.

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