recommendations on addictions

[levani]

I want to know if there is a recipe for not getting addicted to the things i was addicted to before, take coffee for example.

 

I'm slightly worried if i drink it again I will feel the high of it and get hooked again

 

with weed/smoking it's completely different, i know I can do it once every few days or once a year and i won't get dragged back into it but i never know how long the come down will be

with any substance i take i'm kinda scared that the come down might make me addicted to the substance again

i'm asking mainly for coffee though

 

any tips ?

[hyruga]

6 DISADVANTAGES AND RISKS OF COFFEE DRINKING

1. Bad coffee can be toxic.

Bad quality coffee can have a lot of impurities in it, which can cause sickness, headache or a general bad feeling. This can happen if your coffee is made from beans that have been over ripped or otherwise ruined. Even one ruined bean can make your cup toxic. If you invest and buy high quality, speciality coffee you don’t have to worry about this.

2. Coffee can kill you.

Yes, if you drink 80-100 cups (23 litres) in a short session. This dose is lethal and will amount in 10-13 grams of caffeine within your body. Before you reach this point, however, you'll be vomiting most of it out since 23 litres of any liquid is a lot. Even drinking 23 litres of water can kill you.

3. Coffee can cause insomnia and restlessness.

Again, it's the caffeine working here. Your recommended maximum amount of caffeine is 400 milligrams, roughly the amount that you’ll get from 4 cups of coffee. If you’re caffeine-sensitive, be careful with coffee. You are probably already aware what amount and what kind of coffee suits, or doesn't suit you. The amount of caffeine that is safe for human consumption is actually written in our DNA.

4. Don’t drink more than one cup a day if you’re pregnant.

Studies on coffee's effect on a fetus have been controversial, but one thing is sure: if you drink coffee when pregnant, caffeine will also reach the fetus, and your baby is highly sensitive to caffeine. So, if you’re a heavyweight coffee drinker and can’t stop drinking it while pregnant, at least reduce your coffee intake to one cup a day.

5. If you have high cholesterol please choose filtered coffee.

Coffee beans contain cafestol and kahweol, two ingredients that appear to raise LDL cholesterol levels. Filtering the coffee traps most of the LDL, but cafestol and kahweol are found in espresso, turkish coffee, french press and scandinavian style “cooked coffee”.

(The intake of LDL from a cup of espresso is still so small, that for people with normal cholesterol levels, won't be at risk. There are also some studies at preliminary stages of diagnosis that have found marks that cafestol and kahweol may have some beneficial anti-cancer effects, and be good for your liver.)

6. Coffee for kids, may increase bedwetting.

One survey reported that caffeine consumption of 5-7 year old kids may increase enuresis a.k.a. bedwetting.

7. Coffee can give you severe migrane.

Ever wonder why you always have headache. Chances are it is caused by your coffee consumption.

 

https://blog.warriorcoffee.com/blog/12-health-benefits-and-6-disadvantages-of-coffee-smashing-it

 

[Matt23]

Maybe some caffeinated tea, like Green or Oolong.  Maybe working on reducing the dose vs. straight out.  Or you could do decaf.  

I'm sort of remembering something about a stimulant that's not caffeine... but I dunno if i'm just hallucinating or not... = yerba mate, I think that's a drink which stimulates but doesn't have caffeine, and you can get it in different flavors.

[Michael569]

7 hours ago, hyruga said:

2. Coffee can kill you.

Yes, if you drink 80-100 cups (23 litres) in a short session.

lol

[levani]

@Michael569 as if there is something that can't kill you haha

@Matt23 interesting

Edited January 12, 2021 by levani

[Username]

Instead of drinking you can keep coffee beans in your mouth.

[Michael569]

@levani basically there are only 4 types of stimulants I can really think of working on slightly different systems. 

1. Adrenal stimulants - Cause release of glucocorticoids (cortisol) and adrenaline. This is the most "aggressive" and most rapid. This gives you raw brutal energy but can cause addiction if overused. - caffeine (aggressive), matcha (mild), yerba mate (mild), high-intensity exercise, adrenaline sports
 

2. Neurotransmitter Reuptake Blockers - These give a different type of stimulation, more gradual and longer-lasting. Some of them are more aggressive other more gentle. These work on enhancing cognition, memory, focus and mood. -  Modafinil (cognition & focus)  Adderall (cognition and focus, highly addictive), St. John's Wort (mood), Mucuna Pruriens (a bit of all but very gentle), Passiflora (mood), 

 

3. Adaptogens - They work on a combination of above but generally they trigger biochemical adaptation to high-stress levels - Rhodiola (physical & mental stimulant), Ashwagandha (relaxant, anxiety reducer), Siberian Ginseng (stress adapter, helps level down chronic levels of stress), Schisandra

 

4. Vasodilators & Nitric Oxide Inducers - They basically drive more blood and oxygen in brain, muscles and myocardium. The effects is usually very gentle - beets, ginkgo, gotu kola, berries, spinach. 

[levani]

@Michael569 interesting

 

what do you mean high intensity exercise ? you're making it sound bad haha

Edited January 12, 2021 by levani

[Michael569]

23 minutes ago, levani said:

what do you mean high intensity exercise ? you're making it sound bad haha

the type of training where you push hard for 60 seconds, take a break for 20 and take 5 rounds of those times 4 sets. Or a crossfit type of exercise where you move from one thing to another with very little breaks. 

Not bad at all but it can put a lot of burden on adrenals and create a lot of oxidative damage so should be limited to max 2-3 sessions per week 

[peanutspathtotruth]

@levani To address your question, there are many points to consider, but overall it seems that when one is free of psychological barriers and especially free of wrong identifications, addictions are way easier to handle. For me personally, every addiction seems to be linked to one or more specific shadow sides. With porn for example I can see guilt, shame and insecurity to be a big factor. Working through these, it's easier to tackle the addiction. Addictions are still physical, so it will be uncomfortable either way. It's just that when one can see through why the addiction formed in the first place, it is much less powerful to convince you to go back to it.

[levani]

11 hours ago, dflores321 said:

the chain to your habit is still gripping you. 

i don't think so bro, i'm just being a pussy/cautious

[Villager Albert]

On 11. 1. 2021 at 9:18 AM, levani said:

any tips ?

Trips.