mind-body insights - how valid?

[Intraplanetary]

Last year, I had 3 mind-body insights. I experienced them in a really significant way, hence they stuck with me. 

I say mind-body, because first, there is a profound realisation, hence knowing about something + I get bodily sensations. Once it pierced my whole body and I felt aligned physically with a new realisation. Other time, for example. I felt it more in my upper body; like a gentle pang.

These insights are subjective rather than being some general truths. They felt very profound and nothing as coming from my ego. However, I still want to question their validity and ask your advice on what do you think and maybe share your similar experience.

So one of them was about money or broader, well-being in a material sense. I was moving places and spending quite a lot of money on deposit, etc and I was just in my room doing some chores and started thinking that even though I'm just finishing university, maybe I should start saving money. And then BANG it hit me hard. This insight of the absolute knowing that I'll have not to worry about money in my life. It's hard to explain but it's nothing like having some thoughts. This insight is not a though, it's not a belief. it was like a deep feeling and knowing.

Another one happened when for quite a while I had been contemplating Tat vam asi / I'm that which I seek. I understand that I'm God (had direct experience through ego death) and that I'm seeking that which I'm already are.  So I was on my desk thinking about it again and I felt this instant urge to lay in bed. I laid and my whole body from head to feet was pierced with energy while I was enlightened this unquestionable knowing that I'm that which I seek. This was so profound that I'll never forget.

The third one happened when I was walking and thinking about my passion and creativity. I used to have a lot of self-limiting believes. But while walking, I was hit with this profound realisation about fear being an illusion and I felt a pang in my stomach, while at the same time, I felt enlightened with fearlessness and courage to do what my heart desires. I felt this cosmic support and boundless love. It really changed me in a way that I literally have way less fear to follow my creative nature despite the circumstances.

Sorry, my explanations do not do justice to the profundity of these insights, but what do you think?

Am I going to have material security? Get enlightened in this lifetime and live my passion to create, as these insights have shown me?

Or this is something I should not rely on?

or even dismiss?

Maybe these are more intuitions than insights? Then, what's the difference?

Thanks 

 

 

Edited January 10, 2021 by Intraplanetary

[VeganAwake]

4 hours ago, Intraplanetary said:

Last year, I had 3 mind-body insights. I experienced them in a really significant way, hence they stuck with me. 

I say mind-body, because first, there is a profound realisation, hence knowing about something + I get bodily sensations. Once it pierced my whole body and I felt aligned physically with a new realisation. Other time, for example. I felt it more in my upper body; like a gentle pang.

These insights are subjective rather than being some general truths. They felt very profound and nothing as coming from my ego. However, I still want to question their validity and ask your advice on what do you think and maybe share your similar experience.

So one of them was about money or broader, well-being in a material sense. I was moving places and spending quite a lot of money on deposit, etc and I was just in my room doing some chores and started thinking that even though I'm just finishing university, maybe I should start saving money. And then BANG it hit me hard. This insight of the absolute knowing that I'll have not to worry about money in my life. It's hard to explain but it's nothing like having some thoughts. This insight is not a though, it's not a belief. it was like a deep feeling and knowing.

Another one happened when for quite a while I had been contemplating Tat vam asi / I'm that which I seek. I understand that I'm God (had direct experience through ego death) and that I'm seeking that which I'm already are.  So I was on my desk thinking about it again and I felt this instant urge to lay in bed. I laid and my whole body from head to feet was pierced with energy while I was enlightened this unquestionable knowing that I'm that which I seek. This was so profound that I'll never forget.

The third one happened when I was walking and thinking about my passion and creativity. I used to have a lot of self-limiting believes. But while walking, I was hit with this profound realisation about fear being an illusion and I felt a pang in my stomach, while at the same time, I felt enlightened with fearlessness and courage to do what my heart desires. I felt this cosmic support and boundless love. It really changed me in a way that I literally have way less fear to follow my creative nature despite the circumstances.

Sorry, my explanations do not do justice to the profundity of these insights, but what do you think?

Am I going to have material security? Get enlightened in this lifetime and live my passion to create, as these insights have shown me?

Or this is something I should not rely on?

or even dismiss?

Maybe these are more intuitions than insights? Then, what's the difference?

Thanks 

 

 

Enlightenment is not something achieved by an individual.

It's the recognition there isn't one ❤

[Nahm]

7 hours ago, Intraplanetary said:

So one of them was about money or broader, well-being in a material sense. I was moving places and spending quite a lot of money on deposit, etc and I was just in my room doing some chores and started thinking that even though I'm just finishing university, maybe I should start saving money. And then BANG it hit me hard. This insight of the absolute knowing that I'll have not to worry about money in my life. It's hard to explain but it's nothing like having some thoughts. This insight is not a though, it's not a belief. it was like a deep feeling and knowing.

Absolutely. You don’t have to worry at all, about anything. Letting go is an art & a process. 

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Another one happened when for quite a while I had been contemplating Tat vam asi / I'm that which I seek. I understand that I'm God (had direct experience through ego death) and that I'm seeking that which I'm already are.  So I was on my desk thinking about it again and I felt this instant urge to lay in bed. I laid and my whole body from head to feet was pierced with energy while I was enlightened this unquestionable knowing that I'm that which I seek. This was so profound that I'll never forget.

Sounds like a great experience! 

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The third one happened when I was walking and thinking about my passion and creativity. I used to have a lot of self-limiting believes. But while walking, I was hit with this profound realisation about fear being an illusion and I felt a pang in my stomach, while at the same time, I felt enlightened with fearlessness and courage to do what my heart desires. I felt this cosmic support and boundless love. It really changed me in a way that I literally have way less fear to follow my creative nature despite the circumstances.

Sorry, my explanations do not do justice to the profundity of these insights, but what do you think?

Am I going to have material security? Get enlightened in this lifetime and live my passion to create, as these insights have shown me?

The experiences and insights are delightful of their own accord, and don’t per se need to mean or predict anything. That tends to veil the presence sought in the first place. 

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Or this is something I should not rely on?

or even dismiss?

Memories are great experiences too! 

That there truly isn’t anything you have to worry about is similar to that there is no need for certainty (something to rely on). 

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Maybe these are more intuitions than insights? Then, what's the difference?

Plurality. There is no limit to appearances (insights)...but just one intuition. 

[Intraplanetary]

9 hours ago, Nahm said:

That there truly isn’t anything you have to worry about is similar to that there is no need for certainty (something to rely on).

Oh wow, thanks for saying this! I now feel complete haha

I've been forgetting to not be needy for certainty. Letting go of the need to know for sure detaches me from these insights and I can be more open to anything happening. Brilliant.

9 hours ago, Nahm said:

The experiences and insights are delightful of their own accord, and don’t per se need to mean or predict anything. That tends to veil the presence sought in the first place. 

Yes, of course. What a great reminder. 

[Intraplanetary]

9 hours ago, Nahm said:

Plurality. There is no limit to appearances (insights)...but just one intuition. 

Can you please elaborate on this? I really would like to understand the difference between the plurality of insights and intuition?

But there can be many intuitions about something as there are many 'somethings'?  

Or you mean that something can have various insights but there can be only one way of intuiting the same thing?

[Nahm]

@Intraplanetary

?? 

I like the phrase, “the other side of that wall is a thought”. (In regard to whatever wall is ‘in front of you’)

Seeing through this thought has the power to bring a new consideration to mind. When it is recognized ‘the other side of that wall’ is a thought, and not actually the perception of an other side of the wall...it can ‘click’ that I am infinite being appearing as that “wall”. Thus, what I fear, that which could be said to be uncertain, or that which is “the other side of that wall” appearing as that wall - is actually me. “The wall” is actually made of what is absolutely, unequivocally, indisputably, undeniably, certain. Just like, exactly like - you are most certainly you (just forgot your infinitude). It is also relieving and enlightening to scrutinize, to actually try to find, an actual separation between the wall, the seeing, and the knowing of the seeing. 

[Nahm]

26 minutes ago, Intraplanetary said:

Can you please elaborate on this? I really would like to understand the difference between the plurality of insights and intuition?

But there can be many intuitions about something as there are many 'somethings'?  

Or you mean that something can have various insights but there can be only one way of intuiting the same thing?

There is one of you, in the most obvious sense, you’ve never experienced “being two you’s”. The words don’t even resonate or make sense. 

Insights are thinking based appearances with a little feeling experience. Breadcrumbs of the path. Notions there must be more to this. You could experience zero, a hundred, or millions of insights. They’re specific to topics, and are the relinquishing of an overlay, filter, or essentially, of a most innocent and unavoidable self misunderstanding. Insights come & go, appear and disappears. They’re delightful, delicious, yet are only appearing & disappearing in direct experience. 

To draw out the difference in regard to intuition, notice you don’t actually experience intuitions, as in plural. Intuition is ‘far less’ appearance, or, is directly of The One. 

 

This may or may not ‘land’...

Imagine me and you are sitting in college and I ask you “how’d you get into this place?”.  Your answer might be “paid tuition”. So you might consider being in the college, is being in tuition. Tuition being your ticket into the college...and now you’re in it.  

If you are infinite...and find yourself in an apparent finite world...and wonder “How did I even get in here”...you can follow the trail so to speak, the trail of breadcrumbs of the tuition you paid - the knowing of your own infinitude! ...which is THIS! And is now, in experience, referred to as “intuition”.