What is "more" ?

[Value]

Just a bit of armchair philosophy here. More and less is an interesting duality. Like many constructs there is nothing to ground it in. Objectively speaking, what determines if something is more or less than something else - I mean how would you even define it on a fundamental level?

[Eldra]

you'd need some sort of Value to figure it out  

i mean more or less what? something can have many many many different kinds of more or less, it could literally have more and also less
it's all relative to whatever you're comparing, and if you're not comparing something to anything then there is no more or less, then it just is
when we're looking at something, we usually have a sense of what that something is, what its values are, what it does, why it does and all this, if you strip all those values away you can't compare it to anything cause you don't know what it is, maybe if you use it, for example a shovel, as you start using it you instantly start to use More or less

so more or less is emergent the moment you know anything about anything
you may be way more or less deeper than me on this one, haha was fun though, Thanks! 
 

[Brittany]

More requires separation.

Edited January 7, 2021 by Brittany

[Value]

@Eldra I mean when comparing two different aspects of reality, where one seems clearly bigger, vaster or "more" than the other, there is really nothing absolute to ground "moreness" in. You could use centimeters or kilos to measure which seemingly has more but those are just constructions, concepts and stories about measuring a thing. Basically What strike me is that something being more than something else may not be very fundamental. I guess all of reality and notions of it break down When you look closely lol.

Edited January 8, 2021 by Value

[Gesundheit]

More of something means less of something else. All in perfect balance.

More contains less, and less contains more.