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I'm feeling in love with humanity and all of its nonsense :x


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This forum is a living proof that men can be way more illogical/unreasonable/emotional than women. I've learned so much from the women here about my own irrationality when they pointed it out to me. They saved me so much trouble and gave me so much clarity in my own life. Yet, that seems out of reach for many men. It's their loss, really.

And the moderation here is an absolute joke! It's either super lazy, or completely blind, because they almost always miss the mark. I don't even spend as much time here, and yet I can clearly see some serious irregularities that need to be addressed, and yet are not, because nobody is willing to look/investigate objectively. There's no time for consciousness or truth on a forum that is centered around high consciousness and the truth. It seems these are not anything more than just shiny slogans that are really empty on the inside when you examine them closely. Well, what do you expect from an administrator that thinks the social aspect is merely drama and distractions?

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7 hours ago, Gesundheit2 said:

What good am I if I remain poor?

Applied self-love

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What good am I if I don't track back and fix all of my father's countless mistakes, and actually rather massive blunders?

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12 hours ago, Gesundheit2 said:

Applied self-love

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What good am I if I don't track back and fix all of my father's countless mistakes, and actually rather massive blunders?

Applied universal-love

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What good am I if I don't forgive him and make everything up for him? After all, he did the best he could within the limits of his knowledge/understanding/IQ.

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You can literally sell poop to a hippy if you package/advertise it well enough. Similarly, you can offer that same hippy a pot of gold, and for free, and they will still refuse it and even bite your hand.

That's how stupid they can be.

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On 11/5/2022 at 5:46 PM, Gesundheit2 said:

What good am I if I remain poor?

I love Tom's Diner, I forgot all about that song but it was one of my favs growing up...

Just wanted to add some perspective on this.  I don't have a lot of money, either.  Money is good to have, you need it to live the life you want, but the idea that you are good or bad due to money is not true.  People can be poor and very decent people or they can be rich and be terrible.  Most rich people are quite cruel and forget that they live on the backs of other's labours.  

When I see you write here, I see someone who is very smart and who has made a lot out of themselves for the circumstances they were given and who doesn't complain a whole lot about it, even when they deserve to have the spotlight to talk about their struggles.  You just keep growing, and it is so clear that you are on an up and up spiritually, emotionally, in your maturity, just based on the past year or two that I have known you.

You took care of your girlfriend as well as you could, your sister, your brother when they were all going through hardships, you are wanting to forgive people, you understand the importance of family, and you are a work in progress like the rest of us here, but you have a good heart and are able to adapt to things.  You are honest and open about yourself within reason.  You were kind to me when I was going through the worst crisis in my life and you saw what was happening but either did not judge me or did so minimally, you have a good sense of humour and your English writing is impeccable.  

The problem with money is that it can cloud over the other traits of people, that there are more good qualities within a person than cashflow.  Because money is so wrapped up in survival, that when people don't have it they seek it and they think that their value as a soul is wrapped in this, but it isn't.  It's an illusion.  Certainly seek it, because you deserve to have a good and comfortable life, but don't let the lack of money make you feel as though you are not good enough.

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The INFP vibes in this journal..

 

3 minutes ago, Loba said:

Tom's Diner

Why am I hungry suddenly

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30 minutes ago, thisintegrated said:

The INFP vibes in this journal..

Why am I hungry suddenly

I think Ges is intp, but my ability to type people isn't so great.

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5 minutes ago, Loba said:

I think Ges is intp, but my ability to type people isn't so great.

Feminine INTPs often look near identical to INFPs.  What distinguishes the INFPs from INTPs is they talk about people, relationships, feelings, and personal values 1000x more than INTPs.

 

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What good am I if I remain poor?

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I'm feeling in love with humanity

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after my post about Joseph Maynor yesterday

 

Almost every post here is OTT INFP.

Seeing value in describing what you did today is also a super INFP/Fi thing.

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Seems INTP, not INFP. 

He has a rebellious streak that is typical of INTP.  He had a friendship with an ENTJ (my best friend).  He is mocking and playful.  It's subtle but it's there.  It's not so cut and dry. 

Btw @Gesundheit2 I'll try to talk to Joseph about unbanning you.  He was having a tough week. 

Edit: I spoke to Joseph and he unbanned you straight away. He seems happy to be friends with you. 

 

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42 minutes ago, Proserpina said:

Seems INTP, not INFP. 

He has a rebellious streak that is typical of INTP.  He had a friendship with an ENTJ (my best friend).  He is mocking and playful.  It's subtle but it's there.  It's not so cut and dry. 

But INTPs attack ideas, not people. People are never the subject of an INTP's argument.  INTPs also don't care about their "worth" in society.  That's just not how any NTP thinks, as it's pure FiSe.

 

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Btw @Gesundheit2 I'll try to talk to Joseph about unbanning you.  He was having a tough week. 

Edit: I spoke to Joseph and he unbanned you straight away. He seems happy to be friends with you. 

Joe's an ExTJ or something

He banned someone?  Well that's hardly surprising.  Stroke his ego and he'll ban/unban anyone.

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@thisintegrated Joseph banned him because he came on here complaining about Joseph "strongly pressuring" him to make a youtube video knowing Joseph could not respond to his complaint because Leo has banned Joseph from this community. It has nothing to do with stroking anyone's ego. Please don't use this as an opportunity to take a cheap shot at someone yourself.  I'm trying fix a problem in this friendship. 


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Just now, Proserpina said:

@thisintegrated Joseph banned him because he came on here complaining about Joseph "strongly pressuring" him to make a youtube video knowing Joseph could not respond to his complaint because Leo has banned Joseph from this community. It has nothing to do with stroking anyone's ego. Please don't use this as an opportunity to take a cheap shot at someone yourself.  I'm trying fix a problem in this friendship. 

lol, ok, fair enough.  Ges sounds like he went a bit insane there.

I was just saying I know what Joe's like, he was a dick on that actuality of being forum.

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@thisintegrated Phil/Nahm sent Joseph a private message complimenting Joseph on his loving conduct on the actuality of being forum.  Phil/Nahm said it was very beautiful.  He has not been banned from that community. 

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9 hours ago, Loba said:

Just wanted to add some perspective on this.  I don't have a lot of money, either.  Money is good to have, you need it to live the life you want, but the idea that you are good or bad due to money is not true. 

You're a woman. You're not required to have money (although, obviously you can). Men are required to have it. It's paramount, and their worth is assumed/determined mainly by how much money they make/have (or in some cases, pretend to). That's just the reality of the situation, and I'm fine with it, just not with the situation itself.

If you don't judge men based on money, then your standards are low and you don't value/love yourself highly enough. Money is an essential filter that any man you're interested in should pass. Otherwise, and more often than not, you're setting yourself up for a nasty relationship with a nasty ending. Orange comes before Green.

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People can be poor and very decent people or they can be rich and be terrible.  Most rich people are quite cruel and forget that they live on the backs of other's labours.

Yeah, but also people can be rich and decent, or poor and terrible. I don't want the consolation prize, I want to be the best version of myself in all aspects. At the same time, I'm aware that I might change for the worse when I become rich. I've already become kind of cruel to strangers.

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When I see you write here, I see someone who is very smart and who has made a lot out of themselves for the circumstances they were given and who doesn't complain a whole lot about it, even when they deserve to have the spotlight to talk about their struggles.  You just keep growing, and it is so clear that you are on an up and up spiritually, emotionally, in your maturity, just based on the past year or two that I have known you.

Thank you! None of this could have been possible without you. You're a major turning point in my path, even if I don't say it enough, or you don't realize it :x

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You took care of your girlfriend as well as you could, your sister, your brother when they were all going through hardships, you are wanting to forgive people, you understand the importance of family, and you are a work in progress like the rest of us here, but you have a good heart and are able to adapt to things.  You are honest and open about yourself within reason.  You were kind to me when I was going through the worst crisis in my life and you saw what was happening but either did not judge me or did so minimally, you have a good sense of humour and your English writing is impeccable.

I imagine what I could do with money, and this seems so small in comparison. Really, I've done nothing. All of this is mostly just words. I could do a lot more than words. In fact, speaking is one of my biggest weaknesses of all.

Do you remember specifically where I (mis)judged you? I'm sure my communication isn't always perfect, and I want to improve on it.

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The problem with money is that it can cloud over the other traits of people, that there are more good qualities within a person than cashflow.  Because money is so wrapped up in survival, that when people don't have it they seek it and they think that their value as a soul is wrapped in this, but it isn't.  It's an illusion.  Certainly seek it, because you deserve to have a good and comfortable life, but don't let the lack of money make you feel as though you are not good enough.

It's hard to judge myself currently with perfect accuracy, because money (or the lack thereof) can change a lot of things, both internal and external. I feel like I'm doing the best that I can with the available resources. But still sometimes, I feel like I'm being lazy, dumb, not working hard enough, and/or that I'm slacking off and procrastinating with this forum and/or other activities. There's almost always a mental struggle to make the right and most rational decisions all the time. Oftentimes, I find myself having to micro-manage everything that I'm doing without having a fixed schedule to stick to (cuz there's so much chaos/instability), and all of that just to reach a suboptimal level of performance, which is very exhausting and over time can get frustrating. That's a problem that I don't ever have to face when I'm rich. It's a very hard spot that I'm currently in. It's too complicated to explain, or maybe just too painful and unnecessary to do so. So many variables that I did not even have a say in make the game extremely hard for me. I'm not unique from my peers in this regard (i.e. people with similar overall circumstances, mainly people in my country), but I'm different in that I'm aiming a lot higher than most of them, even those with relatively better circumstances. I see a light at the end of the tunnel for me, whereas most of them don't even stand a chance and seem to be completely stuck forever, or maybe if they get lucky somehow. For example, my brother has completely given up and right now is waiting for a miracle, as he puts it. Most of my friends who moved to other countries have basically become stateless slaves and will likely have to keep slaving away for decades to come.

Thank you for your encouraging words, support, and understanding. You've always been so kind to me, especially at my worst times, and that's something I will never forget. I know you don't like hanging around other people a lot, so you don't have to engage with me if you don't want to. Though, you know I'm happy to talk to you and you're always welcome. And also, you don't have to exclude me when you refer to men in your writings, partially because I'm not very different from them, and partially because some people misinterpret it, and that seems to be causing you unnecessary problems. We're good friends, and nothing can or will change that, except for the better. I don't get offended when you say you have negative views of men, because you are right and have every right to, even though it's not the best or most ideal perspective to hold, but it's got to run its course. Men are not generally good company, that's a universal truth. My mom says that an ideal man is never at home except for food and sleeping. And no, she isn't talking about my dad.

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7 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

lol, ok, fair enough.  Ges sounds like he went a bit insane there.

Hey! Only my friends are allowed to call me Ges.

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I was just saying I know what Joe's like, he was a dick on that actuality of being forum.

FYI, he doesn't like being called Joe.

You've messed up big time, my brother :P

And no, I don't think I'm either INTP or INFP. Good luck trying to analyze me. I'm not smart enough to be INTP nor emotional enough be INFP. Don't be fooled by all these fake displays here. In practice, I'm devoid of intelligence. And there's only emptiness inside of me. I'm not a human ego with a personality, I haven't evolved that much yet.

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