Ego Death

[Bronsoval]

Can the desire to produce ego death inhibit the experience  of ego death? Desire is caused by ego is it not?

Edited September 27, 2016 by Bronsoval

[Lawrence]

That is a very brilliant question to ask and I have a feeling that the desire for ego death would push the actual experience of ego death further away from your reach...

[Richard Alpert]

wanting get rid of the ego is ego trip in itself

[Bronsoval]

11 hours ago, Lawrence said:

That is a very brilliant question to ask and I have a feeling that the desire for ego death would push the actual experience of ego death further away from your reach...

I agree.  I feel like the ego will do everything possible to protect itself, even fake its death.  Is there some way to sneak up on ego to premote ego death or do you just sort of bash it into submission?  Maybe the answer is 5meo-DMT like Leo suggests.

[Azrael]

11 hours ago, Bronsoval said:

Can the desire to produce ego death inhibit the experience  of ego death? Desire is caused by ego is it not?

Desire comes from the ego? Which ego? Can you show it to me.

I'd suggest that most seekers even here on the forum don't really want ego death. They might say it, but they really don't. They might want all the "benefits and goodies" that can arise out of an ego death, but to shoot themselves spiritually in the head for this? Most probably don't really wanna do that.

And that is why they will spend most of their life trying to argue with you, not doing the work and being hypercritical about it. And I don't judge them, because what we are doing here is probably the most scary shit that you can do. Kill yourself while alive.

If you really want ego death, go forward and take 5-MeO-DMT. Do your research and look for yourself. Look how it is to dissolve and if you can stand that. Those who can will be able to answer your question.

Can the desire to produce ego death inhibit the experience itself?

If you are really earnest about this, this will be a stage on the journey, yes. There comes the time where you kind of know that you live in your self-created illusion and just want to know the truth. At that stage you might go neurotic about every method you can exploit. And that's needed to see that there is nothing you can really do to make this shift happen. It comes to you.

When you then finally are all fed up, quit on all levels and honestly say: "Fuck it, I had enough." - It may come to you. But this is nothing you could ever play. You cannot play god.

Desire, as everything else, comes out of this no-thingness. Takes form like water bubbles in a glass, is present for some time, and then dissolves again as the still water. As everything else.

Cheers,