Is the universe 13.8 billion years old, 25 years old, or 30 minutes old?

[BipolarGrowth]

You lay your head down at night. After about 20 minutes, you fall asleep. After some time, your brain goes into REM sleep. You find that you are no longer on planet Earth. You are in a dream world created by your own mind. You begin to acclimate to the different odd features of this reality. You watch movies. You enjoy artworks. You exercise. You live a rather normal life. Along your maturation process, at the age of 25, you hear that leading scientists have been able to determine the age of the dream universe. What a discovery! They say that the dream universe is 13.8 billion years old. 
 

You wake up back on Earth 30 minutes later as your wife makes a loud noise and disrupts your REM sleep. Is the dream universe still 13.8 billion years old (what the experts within the dream could verify)? Or was it 25 years old (what your direct experience can verify)? Or is it 30 minutes old (what others on Earth and clocks can verify)? 
 

Now, how old do you think our universe is? 

Edited December 31, 2020 by BipolarGrowth
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[seeking_brilliance]

If I don't identify with age, why would you expect the universe to? ??

[RedLine]

you want to replace a thought with a new one

both wrong

 

[Tim R]

2 hours ago, BipolarGrowth said:

Now, how old do you think our universe is? 

Meaningless question.

That's like asking "what was before time?" Or "where is space?" 

[OctagonOctopus]

Infinite. That dream & "reality" are both a dream inside immortal ever present conciousness.

[Scholar]

The age of the universe is precisely two and a half Moments.

[Someone here]

8 hours ago, BipolarGrowth said:

Now, how old do you think our universe is? 

Define time. 

[Inliytened1]

@BipolarGrowth whatever you imagine it to be is what becomes real for you.

[No Self]

13.8 billion years: correct

25 years: correct

30 minutes: no, the third option should be the present moment only. Then it's just a question of perspective.

[deci belle]

S'body said:

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Meaningless question.

That's like asking "what was before time?" Or "where is space?" 

 

Oh?

Evidently you don't know what IS before time, or the nature of space.

Nevertheless, the knowledge of such is meaningless because such experience is not relative to relativity.

Meaning is only viable in terms of relativity, ie: eternity, creation, karmic existence, incremental rational pattern-awareness, which all falls into the realm of time.

The OP exhibits its own self-limited reified perspective.

Ultimately, one might endeavor to just step right over the whole realm of fascination perpetuating self-delusional eternity and express the liberation of true wonder.

This is all suuuch a matter of "now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall…"

As for myself, I'd love to turn you on …❤︎

[Inliytened1]

2 hours ago, deci belle said:

S'body said:

Oh?

Evidently you don't know what IS before time, or the nature of space.

Nevertheless, the knowledge of such is meaningless because such experience is not relative to relativity.

Meaning is only viable in terms of relativity, ie: eternity, creation, karmic existence, incremental rational pattern-awareness, which all falls into the realm of time.

 

Precisely.  Relativity goes much, much deeper than any of us could ever imagine.  

Of course whether the knowledge of such is meaningless or meaningful is in itself relative....ta da!