Karma doesn't exist

[nitramadas]

Well obviously.. Just like you have "innocent until proven guilty", you can't start off with a crazy assumption like Karma.  lol, what a dumb name tho.. Just googled Karma with a h and you WON'T BELIEVE IT... It came up with a salad.  lmao, 

[CMacD]

I think that's why some people propose why some eastern religions believe in multiple lives, because one life is clearly way too unfair for karma to be real

[Carl-Richard]

Karma is not about justice in the western sense of the word. It's more about Newton's third law of motion: every action has an equal and opposite reaction. It's much more mechanical than you think. In that sense, you only ever get what you "deserve" because that is all that could ever be.

Edited December 28, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[Carl-Richard]

17 hours ago, Quantum Toad said:

All karma can become cleared in one moment of realization, the realization that you are not the doer. The realization that you are free from karma, frees you from karma. When you know that you are free to determine who you are at every moment, that recognition in itself breaks the karmic tie.

You still have prarabdha karma to burn through . Realization doesn't wipe the slate completely clean. It only doesn't complicate it further.

[Tim R]

3 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

It's much more mechanical than you think

nope

[machinegun]

@How to be wise Did you just choose to deliberately ignore the second-half of what I wrote? There's no way in hell being raped and tortured, and then subsequently dying, for 44 days has helped anybody's "higher good". I don't know why you choose to believe that, and to be able to say something like that proves to me that you've lead a pretty cush life.

[How to be wise]

8 hours ago, machinegun said:

@How to be wise Did you just choose to deliberately ignore the second-half of what I wrote? There's no way in hell being raped and tortured, and then subsequently dying, for 44 days has helped anybody's "higher good". I don't know why you choose to believe that, and to be able to say something like that proves to me that you've lead a pretty cush life.

You have a lot of work to do. God did not make a mistake when he invented rape, torture and death.

[Carl-Richard]

On 28.12.2020 at 6:59 PM, Tim R said:

nope

Don't get stuck on materialistic terminology. It's a holistic mechanism, not a reductionistic mechanism. Karma isn't reducible to single units of measurement (e g. Newtonian forces), but it describes causal "trends".

Edited January 1, 2021 by Carl-Richard

[Nahm]

On 12/26/2020 at 1:08 PM, machinegun said:

 

I don't know if this is a revelation everyone has, but a few days ago I came to the conclusion that life is not even remotely fair. This was because I read about the case of Junko Furuta. Don't read the Wikipedia page unless you're willing to cry and/or vomit. 

I think karma is something we all want to believe in-bad guys getting punished- but seriously, a lot of the times it works out in favor of the bad guy.

I watched a video from Leo about how karma comes back in the form of a guilty conscience, but some actions are so fucked up that guilt alone could never absolve the pain these people cause.

Like do you really think a motherfucker like Gengis Kahn was feeling remorse at the end of his life? People were celebrating this mass rapist and murder as a hero, he must have felt like a fucking god.

I guess I'm just disappointed because I have always wanted to believe things return to balance at the end. This world is truly fucked up.

 

What does it say about your true nature that these thoughts don’t resonate?  Imagine that multiplied by eight billion. 

[Tim R]

@Carl-Richard

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

Don't get stuck on materialistic terminology

Ok I thought you meant some reductionist sort of thing (isn't that what everybody associates with "mechanical"?)

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

Karma isn't reducible to single units of measurement (e g. Newtonian forces), but it describes causal "trends".

What do you mean?

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Tim R said:

@Carl-Richard

Ok I thought you meant some reductionist sort of thing (isn't that what everybody associates with "mechanical"?)

What do you mean?

On a second thought, I don't think the holistic vs. reductionistic thing was a very helpful or accurate description :P. I was mainly contrasting the common mystical "justice" perception of karma with the word commonly associated with causality ("mechanism") while using it more as a metaphor than an accurate description, in order to create a guiding image.

Edited January 1, 2021 by Carl-Richard