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After death? (analogy)

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  On 12/23/2020 at 4:20 AM, cetus said:

Have you been listening to Alan Watts lately? :)

Thanks for sharing, @cetus. One critical concept that Watts doesn't recognize in this speech is the idea of continued karmic identity, in the samsara cycle, and of ultimate redemption from this cycle.


Just because God loves you doesn't mean it is going to shape the cosmos to suit you. God loves you so much that it will shape you to suit the cosmos.

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@Fran11 well you already know what's the go. Good luck :)


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  On 12/23/2020 at 4:10 PM, Fran11 said:

"Physical" is just a way of calling a very "dense" form of consciousness, there are less dense levels as well.

Exactly. I've been pondering this a lot recently. It doesn't have to be all or nothing, either unmanifested or only manifested as we experience it in this density level. It seems likely, if not inevitable, that there are other, finer (and perhaps other, denser) levels of manifestation.


Just because God loves you doesn't mean it is going to shape the cosmos to suit you. God loves you so much that it will shape you to suit the cosmos.

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  On 12/23/2020 at 4:20 AM, cetus said:

@PepperBlossoms Have you been listening to Alan Watts lately?:)

 

@cetus No I hadn't listened to him lately.  I love his voice - he sounds so magical when he talks.  Maybe we've had similar info sources to come to similar conclusions.

I guess what I need to ponder some more is how the heck all of this stuff comes together.

Living things are made of cells which can live from days to months.

Everything is seemingly made of atoms which is approx at the age of the universe.

The creature body after death will have cells that die but atoms that continue to exist.

A question to ponder:

Is consciousness tied to the physical world - it is the computer reading the software which it is made of.  The minds thoughts are physical things/systems that happen in an x,y,z space with a mass made up of atoms.

Sure when you die, your atoms get rearranged differently and eventually may get arranged into another computer to read software.

 

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  On 12/24/2020 at 7:33 PM, PepperBlossoms said:

 

A question to ponder:

Is consciousness tied to the physical world - it is the computer reading the software which it is made of.  The minds thoughts are physical things/systems that happen in an x,y,z space with a mass made up of atoms.

Sure when you die, your atoms get rearranged differently and eventually may get arranged into another computer to read software.

 

There isn't anyone pondering... as in the ponderer is just a thought identified with as your thought.

When it's recognized there already isn't a you now, the idea of some aspect of yourself continuing on after death becomes non applicable.

This liberating recognition takes the steam out of the sail sort of speak in terms of trying to know an answer to THIS!!


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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  On 12/25/2020 at 6:16 AM, VeganAwake said:

There isn't anyone pondering... as in the ponderer is just a thought identified with as your thought.

When it's recognized there already isn't a you now, the idea of some aspect of yourself continuing on after death becomes non applicable.

This liberating recognition takes the steam out of the sail sort of speak in terms of trying to know an answer to THIS!!

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Dude your views are extremely limited.  No self is not the answer to everything. 


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  On 12/25/2020 at 3:50 PM, Natasha said:

@Someone here Yes, remember what 'you' were before 'you' were 'born'? :)

Before "I" was born.. I AM. ;)


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  On 12/25/2020 at 2:37 PM, Someone here said:

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Dude your views are extremely limited.  No self is not the answer to everything. 

Pertaining to Awakening

All that's being pointed to is on one end of the spectrum is full-scale identification with the socially conditioned thinking mind.(Asleep)

And on the other end is the disidentification with the socially conditioned thinking mind.(Awake)

The Spectrum isn't real it's just a concept to point with. ☝ ❤

 

 


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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  On 12/26/2020 at 4:21 AM, VeganAwake said:

Pertaining to Awakening

All that's being pointed to is on one end of the spectrum is full-scale identification with the socially conditioned thinking mind.(Asleep)

And on the other end is the disidentification with the socially conditioned thinking mind.(Awake)

The Spectrum isn't real it's just a concept to point with. ☝ ❤

 

 

Why should identification with the "conditioned thinking mind" be "Bad" or "false"?... The "conditioned thinking mind" is YOU.

You're never going to disidentify from anything because everything is you. That's what you're missing. 


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