LostSoul

Strange question pop up in my mind while seeing gore video on Whatsupp

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For all the enlightened beings out there, does enlightenment mean that we will have to go through gore experiences at some point in other lifes? Another way to frame it, I'm experiencing ritght now gore things but I'm not aware of them? You guys now what I'm triying to ask, because I got so fucking afraid seeing one video on Whatsupp of a man who had an accident with a turnstile and turned into dust in seconds. Sorry for the low quality type of question :(

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I’d be aware when the mind is taking things very literally. If someone says “I am everything”, it doesn’t mean they are literally going to transform in all sorts of things like a stapler, football, tuna sandwich etc

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I wont not consider myself to be enlightened but from what I know about non-dual philosophy I will try and create an analogy

If you do indeed go through every possible person's body and life at some point and then completely forget what happened, in a very real sense it never happened. It is VERY likely that you in a past life had an experience like that was wiped away by the reset of death and rebirth.  If you don't remember that something happened then experientially it did not happen.

When you were a few days or months old your probably at some point got really sick but do you remember that now? probably not.       

when you see a video of some else die, then from a first person perspective, there is no person and no death.  from the watcher of the video there is only the idea of death which lives only in the mind of the watchers. 

 

 One very common thing that I see a lot of our society is ruminating and churning over injustice which of course has it's value to stop further injustices but thinking from a purely "now" base thinking.

"man he must has suffered a lot when he got crushed or turned to pulp" is only an idea in this moment.   

 OMG this man just died in a horrific way!! In this present moment there is no dead man other that YOUR idea of one. 

therefore, there is no man, there is no suffering in that body, there is no gruesome, THERE IS NO DIRECT MEMORY OF PAIN OUTSIDE OF THE WATCHER OF THE EVENTS.

I hope this helped.  

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worry about this life you have right here lol, not about something else that may or may not be 

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I've had similar thoughts but for different reasons. I had recurring night terrors as a young child that consistently unfolded through three phases: 1. the "meat phase", 2. the "needle phase", and 3. the "peaceful phase".

Consistent across all the different phases was an underlying and persistent feeling of impending doom, although strongest in the two first phases. There was also a strong sense of things being very very "wrong" (things being upside-down or inside-out). They were more like visions than dreams in the sense that they didn't follow a coherent narrative, and there was generally no sense of having a body that was separate from what was being experienced. 

The first phase had a dark, gloomy, hellish feeling to it (black colours, dark reds, underground feeling), and it involved an infinite amount of large structures of something resembling chunks of decomposing flesh or internal organs, infinite in size, but also having a metallic or rock-like quality to them. They felt extremely heavy, coarse and threatening. Accompanying the underlying sense of doom and wrongness was a feeling of violence, panic, terror, dread, the sense of being crushed and squeezed.

Sooner or later, it would transition into phase two. Phase two is even harder to describe visually, but the main characteristic of this phase was the sensation of being impaled by infinitely thin and infinitely long needles from every possible direction. The colour were more shiny-beige, metallic. There was also a feeling of being constricted, suspended in air, with sharp pains extending infinitely in all directions.

Phase three is very interesting. All the painful and terrifying visions from the other phases disappeared and were contrasted with a feeling of silence and a very eerie feeling of peace. Visually, it's like I was in a brightly lit, white space with no defined boundaries except for a little scenery of tiny translucent chairs amidst thin, angelic veils. There were still remnants of the feelings of impending doom and wrongness, but there was also a growing feeling of "this is going to be ok".

It's hard to remember, but I would probably have these experiences maybe once a month. I can't remember how old I was the first time I had them, but it could've been everything from 3-5 years old. I think it stopped happening when I was around 10 years old, but I continued having different types of nightmares (and sleep paralysis) where I would get the same sense of impending doom and the feeling of a dark presence coming to get me.

The reason why I'm bothering to type all this here is because I've been wondering what could have caused these types of experiences in such a young person. Is it remnants of violent deaths from past incarnations? Or is it just a result of something as benign as rapid brain development? I have no idea. It still fascinates me till this day.


Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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7 hours ago, LostSoul said:

For all the enlightened beings out there, does enlightenment mean that we will have to go through gore experiences at some point in other lifes? Another way to frame it, I'm experiencing ritght now gore things but I'm not aware of them? You guys now what I'm triying to ask, because I got so fucking afraid seeing one video on Whatsupp of a man who had an accident with a turnstile and turned into dust in seconds. Sorry for the low quality type of question :(

Disclaimer: I'm not an enlightened being, just a normal dude whose been practicing spirituality for a while.

Love is what you'll need to go through. Can you handle unbounded, unconditional, overflowing, ecstatic love?

That's ALL you'll need to go through.

The spiritual path is about everything in life, including gore, turning into love. Just like how Jesus's blood turned to wine(hopefully I got that right hahaha, not a christian myself).

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If that ever happened, remember that in another life you will be living a peaceful life where you have the opportunity to decide whether to worry or not, perhaps, exactly like your current life.

DON'T WASTE YOUR LIFE WITH WORRYING! GO LIVE!

Edited by Gesundheit

If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey

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@LostSoul You're welcome ;)


If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey

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