Madhur

Faith required for experiencing God ?

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Imo faith should not matter if the god is absolute. 

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21 minutes ago, Madhur said:

Okay I got mixed response here.

Let's take a more direct approach here, let's say we ask him to take psychedelics(DMT) and exclude all the bad trips that he could experience.

given that He has no faith in God & he is completely ignorant of the idea of the god, What are the chances that he would still experience the god regardless of his belief ?

You seem to be thinking that a person is just one single thing.  That if a person = x, he can't be y.  There's nothing stopping me from adopting a new religion every day, or every hour.  People aren't fixed, not even for a second.  The whole idea of you being you only works in a limited capacity, it's just a necessity for person-to-person interaction and should not be confused with reality.  You're someone else every nanosecond, it's just that we ignore such detail.  Without memory, this concept may be easier to understand.

If some part of him doesn't believe in this "God", why would that matter?  Becoming god just means letting go of your delusions, regardless of what they are.  If you've put a label on yourself, be it "atheist" or "non-atheist", you're gonna have to drop them.  DMT makes it very clear you're not some single thing.  Whatever you believe becomes irrelevant at higher doses as it all just melts away; you're not even able to understand that you're human.  Such experiences can make you completely transcend your humanity, along with everything you know.  Does that answer your question?

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17 minutes ago, Madhur said:

given that He has no faith in God & he is completely ignorant of the idea of the god, What are the chances that he would still experience the god regardless of his belief ?

Worst case is he will contextualize the entire trip in a materialistic way.

Best case is it radically changes his mindset and he starts exploring spirituality out of extreme curiosity.

If I were you, I'd hope for the best case, yet prepare for the worst case.

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Just call it Being, Absolute Reality, or Infinity, then you can still be an atheist if you want. Why are these labels so important anyway, when it's the nameless awareness which matters?  


Relax, it's just my loosely held opinion.  :) 

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