Any sort of philosophy/rumination about leadership breeds bad politics??

[charlie cho]

I've been reading Chuang Tzu's parables. One person asked a no name hermit, how can I attain right leadership and governance for the realm? And the hermit replied to him that he was an ugly horrible man and to never talk to him again. "How dare you try to think about governance and politics you lowly man! You deserve to be tramped on and spit!" 

My interest in taoism starts from this. At the time of china when Lao Tzu came to be, Confucius, Mencius, Han fei zi and many philosophers argued against each other as intellectuals like Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris debating whose way of governance and political philosophy were right. This came out to be because these warlords were seeking a form of self-help to study how they could outwin each other in creating a strong powerful country. But it was Lao tzu only who gained respect out of all those philosophers and kings even if he critisized how dumb Confucius and mencius were. Why? Because Lao Tzu said any sort of philosophy, thought, idealism, control, desire for leadership, any hint of idealism and philosophy bleeds a desire for power and leadership, which breeds corruption. That's why Chuang Tzu shit on Confucius hard in every parable he wrote in. 

But what really peeked my interest in Taoism is that after that person asked the hermit once again about governance, the hermit and answered relentingly, "cleanse the heart, master your energy to become one, adapt to change of mother earth but do not do so with any selfish urgency, then the world will be governed rightly by itself without your interference then on." 

Even though I try to say Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu's way of governance is too 'out there' and cannot apply to the 'real world', I cannot help but say their way of governance is just factually correct. Isn't it? How can i debate or argue against them? 

Edited December 13, 2020 by charlie cho

[AtheisticNonduality]

Interesting. Greater Jihad comes first I suppose, and then the Lesser Jihad falls in place

[Nahm]

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[DocWatts]