5 meo, almost. The party

[Breakingthewall]

6 minutes ago, James123 said:

become singularity, just nothing

You call it nothing, but same time singularity. And you remember it so you was . For me nothing is different, you are talking of a nothing that is, so god, the same than the spiritual masters said. Well, let's see if the next time.

[James123]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

You call it nothing, but same time singularity. And you remember it so you was . For me nothing is different, you are talking of a nothing that is, so god, the same than the spiritual masters said. Well, let's see if the next time.

It has no name brother, it is you, forget everything you know thats what is it. Nothing, singularity, emptiness still just a word. Just look at the wall and dont think anything, thats what is it.

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

Just look at the wall and dont think anything

There is nothing to think, only increase the dose. It's not a work that I could do without 5 meo

[Breakingthewall]

58 minutes ago, Adamq8 said:

But it is more facets to this.

The mind draws conclusions about this experience that you had and is filled with horror.

But how do you suppose this world arose out of that state?

No stuck for eternity. 

Yes , that's why I keep going. Sure there is more to see. And the death is fascinating, even it's the most scary. Completely unimaginable

51 minutes ago, James123 said:

 

[abrakamowse]

@Breakingthewall @James123 It happened to me but without psychedelics. It's absolutely crazy. When it happened to me I didn't have any idea of what entails to be in the path to enlightenment. I was confused, and I prayed God to saved me and that happened. That void, it happened by itself, I wasn't meditating, anything... I just asked to be "saved".

The void was in front of me, but I thought I had a giant nightmare, after that I didn't remember a lot of things,  my memory didn't work well so I thought I had a panic attack or something like that. I ended in a hospital in the mental health ward. I didn't know what did happen.

It took me like 5 years to know what it was really happening. Now I am praying/meditating to have the same experience and to have the courage to go beyond it and Love it as @James123 says.

Hope we can all see truth and become One, but there's not really anyone and we don't become anything, we just are it. Or better said "I AM" before anything and I AM the source of everything/nothing.

[Breakingthewall]

31 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

It took me like 5 years to know what it was really happening. Now I am praying/meditating to have the same experience and to have the courage to go beyond it and Love it as @James123 says.

Maybe 5 meo is the key for you too. It's the door of death

 

31 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

Hope we can all see truth and become One, but there's not really anyone and we don't become anything, we just are it. Or better said "I AM" before anything and I AM the source of everything/nothing.

 

Who knows, its possible that we can. Until we are in the truth, for me better not imagine. I have some realizations over all in the middle of the night after a 5 meo experience like I told. Was like: yes it is, but if you try to grab, the light get off. It's a place to stay, but if you leave, it's lost. Sound beautiful to accept the nothing like james123 said .for me it is an obligation. I am a miracle of existence, like all humans, and I find it a shame to waste who I am in shitty thoughts, I want to be what I have to be

Edited December 13, 2020 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

5 hours ago, Forestluv said:

@Breakingthewall Keep in mind this is real in a sense and a contextualized story in a sense.

Do you mean that the death, the void, isn't real, itsnt it? It's the absence on mind activity that creates the appearance of infinity, eternity? But at the end it's real in a sense too. Seems the most real thing I ever saw

Edited December 13, 2020 by Breakingthewall

[Breakingthewall]

Hey, I just woke up at 4 am and I really think it is impossible to dare to go to infinite death. It is the most horrible cosmic horror. Much better if he could just die, not go to the eternal grave without escaping. My heart beats, no one can help me with this, my god, it's going to infinite hell. Did anyone have to face this shit? Maybe it's normal for everyone who tried 5 meo, it just takes more doses, but go there ... hahaha what a horrible unimaginable horror. The taste of death. It is infinite and there is no god there, just get lost forever in the infinite grave. Bah is fear, my fear and nothing else. Fear of infinity. But fear ... fear. I'm trembling friends. It is nothing that is possible to handle. If I surrender to this it is more than giving my life, it is' s I surrender my soul, more than everything. This is not a game no. I was never really afraid of death because I was never there, but now I was and I saw that it is infinite. The only reason to go there is because I know I have to go when I am really dead, so the cosmic infinite tomb is waiting for me. Empty.

edit: well I know what is that fear and the answer: I have to go naked to the infinity. There was a small piece of me with me. Even a 0.1% of me can't go in. I have to humble my self and surrender my soul to the infinite nothing. Wtf. It's infinite. If were only a torture room of the middle age, ok, but the infinity ... I'm impure and I ve to purifier myself to go in the eternity. I hope I don't get sick or crazy if I go to that horror too many times. But it's normal, who said that to know God is easy? Fast food god? Only an hour in the middle of the day, enough to realize God? Well stupid, go in a tour for the infinite grave, maybe you learn a bit of respect.

Edited December 14, 2020 by Breakingthewall

[James123]

6 hours ago, abrakamowse said:

t took me like 5 years to know what it was really happening. Now I am praying/meditating to have the same experience and to have the courage to go beyond it and Love it as @James123 says.

Hope we can all see truth and become One, but there's not really anyone and we don't become anything, we just are it. Or better said "I AM" before anything and I AM the source of everything/nothing.

Surrendering and letting go is the key brother ? good luck??

[Breakingthewall]

10 minutes ago, John Doe said:

@Breakingthewall Avīci, 3.4 quintillion years.

 

 

Thanks for read and understand, I really appreciate, I erase that history that I wrote before, irrelevant. The thing is to let it go, light, forget the weight of the histories. That infinite void is the fire of purification. It's great that I found, if not, I will be for ever a stupid sad ego

Edited December 14, 2020 by Breakingthewall

[abrakamowse]

8 hours ago, James123 said:

Surrendering and letting go is the key brother ? good luck??

Thanks James! 
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I found this site long time ago, maybe this is a good moment to share it

@Breakingthewall

https://paulbrunton.org/notebooks/23/8

[Breakingthewall]

@abrakamowse the greatest thing that I ever read . I truly say thank you.

 

[abrakamowse]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

@abrakamowse the greatest thing that I ever read . I truly say thank you.

 

I am very glad that you find it useful. This is the only guy that I saw openly talking about the void. I found it by chance, don't remember how. I think it was when I was searching to understand what happened to me.

I don't understand why others teachers don't talk about that... it is very important. IMO. He has some books published, I think I am going to buy some of them to understand that better, next time it happens I want to go and stay there... and if I get courage go completely into it and don't get scared.

What is scared me the most was the total loss of identity, that was it was to me (to my ego) super terrifying... OMG... It is hard to stay there without memories, no reference to anything. But, it needs to be done when we are ready.

[abrakamowse]

I think is a good idea to read everything @Breakingthewall the part I sent you is about the void but he has like a map of a lot of warnings of the path. I find some of his teachings with some ideas similar to Leo advice. Like creating first balance and a having a good foundation in philosophy and other aspects of life...here is the link of the whole book online:

https://paulbrunton.org/notebooks/

in the first section "overview of the Quest" in the self development section there's some notes about the dangers, is really good to read them. It made me understand some problems that I had...

 

https://paulbrunton.org/notebooks/1/5#section8

[Breakingthewall]

@abrakamowse @abrakamowse

Great, thank you! I will read, I already read the first text many times. It's surprising that people can go so deep without any chemical help. Seems Impossible. Maybe you are one of them.

the text explains the whole void thing very well. which is really the matter of enlightenment. As you said, it is surprising that in the books on spirituality almost nothing is said about this.

 

Edited December 14, 2020 by Breakingthewall

[abrakamowse]

@Breakingthewall  In my case it didn't happen in meditation. I was attracted a lot to Christianity and I was praying like asking in desperation to have a sign that I was saved Lol... I didn't know anything... and it happened the next day when I was waking up, that's why I thought I was a nightmare, I was totally unprepared, didn't have any idea about what was happening. I had an epiphany some weeks before that it also happened just randomly. And everything was with a lot of my interpretation with biblical stuff, and Jesus, and so on hehehe... I saw reality, all was God, a lot of love, etc... but it was very confusing but powerful.

Then when I was trying to integrate what did happen to me I discovered non duality, advaita vedanta, and I began to understand. Christian Church have no idea about enlightenment, they are doing nothing really. Maybe someone can become enlightened by accident hehehe... but they have no idea about what entails to become enlightened.

I am not sure if I will be able to reproduce the event (or non-event) without chemicals, lets see...

 

Good to know that is was helpful for you. Thank you also for sharing your experience.