Dead because of one hit of 5MeO (READ BEFORE YOU JUDGE)

[SpiritualAwakening]

Came across this post in one of the DMT groups i'm in. That's why we should not treat this substance lightly. And NOT mix it with anything..

[SpiritualAwakening]

Yeah and not the kind of dead you were hoping for.. CORPSE DEAD

[King Merk]

talk about an ego death

[SpiritualAwakening]

@King Merk He woke up and decided to really go for it, hehe. At least he could finally rip off that tight shoe he was holding on to. Also she never mentioned whether it was toad or synthetic.

[abrakamowse]

Mahāsamādhi?

 

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In Hindu or Yogic traditions, Mahāsamādhi, the great and final samādhi, is the act of consciously and intentionally leaving one's body at the moment of death. According to this belief, a realized and enlightened (Jivanmukta), yogi (male) or yogini (female) who has attained the state of nirvikalpa samādhi, can consciously exit from their body and attain enlightenment, often while in a deep, conscious meditative state.

 

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[SpiritualAwakening]

@abrakamowse Damn, who knows.

[Inliytened1]

@SpiritualAwakening  the guy may have had other drugs in his system.  She said he was drinking and doing ketamine the night before then took two more drugs - including  -went to bed for a few hrs then took DMT.  I mean.....doesn't sound like enough time to get all of that out of your system.  Not smart to mix any of that stuff either.

[Leo Gura]

Very unfortunate to hear.

But he was taking methadone?? Isn't that like heroin? How did he source it? If it was not from a good source it might have contained fentanyl which is very lethal.

It does not make sense that a single hit of 5-MeO-DMT would kill a man. And what was the dose? Was it really 5-MeO or something else? More info needed before drawing conclusions.

To stop breathing on 5-MeO would require a big dose and she should have been able to help him regain breathing if he stopped.

An important precaution is to always start very low and gradually ramp up. And really, plug it instead of vaping.

[SpiritualAwakening]

12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@SpiritualAwakening  the guy may have had other drugs in his system.  She said he was drinking and doing ketamine the night before then took two more drugs - went to bed for a few hrs then took DMT.  I mean come on...doesn't sound like enough time to get all of that out of your system.  Not smart to mix any of that stuff either.

Yeah mixing anything with Methadone could be lethal.

[SpiritualAwakening]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Very unfortunate to hear.

But he was taking methadone?? Isn't that like heroin? How did he source it? If it was not from a good source it might has contain fentanyl which is very lethal.

It does not make sense that a single hit of 5-MeO would kill a man. And what was the dose? Was it really 5-MeO or something else? More info needed before drawing conclusions.

It definitely does not make sense waking up taking one hit of 5MeO and literally becoming corpse dead. Let me see if I can find more about it. One of my assumptions is he was still sleepdrunk and thought he was doing NN-dmt or made a mistakes in weighing. 

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, SpiritualAwakening said:

thought he was doing NN-dmt

If DMT and 5-MeO dosages were confused AND he had other stuff still in his system like methadone, that might be enough.

Or it might be a problem with adulterants in the substance depending on how he sourced it.

[Sempiternity]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

An important precaution is to always start very low and gradually ramp up. And really, plug it instead of vaping.

Well do you think it was the breathing it into the lungs, or was it the interaction with the others drugs? If it's interaction with the drugs, how would plugging been a different outcome? 

[Preety_India]

 

 

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Sempiternity said:

Well do you think it was the breathing it into the lungs, or was it the interaction with the others drugs? If it's interaction with the drugs, how would plugging been a different outcome? 

Vaping itself will not be lethal unless something else is wrong, but vaping will surely amplify any errors.

Stopping breathing from plugging is just realistically not gonna happen. It's not so rapid or intense. Vaping a large dose can cause breathing problems because a large vaped dose will hit you like a sledgehammer and multiply any complications by 5x.

It ought to be something more than just vaping to kill you. Unless for some rare genetic anomoly.

It would help to know if this guy had ever done 5-MeO or DMT before and how he handled it.

[SpiritualAwakening]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Stopping breathing from plugging is just not gonna happen. 

Me and my friend were talking about going Leo on the 5MeO. We're going to try and vape it a couple times more, if it still 'fails' we'll do it.

[Sempiternity]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Vaping itself will not be lethal unless something else is wrong, but vaping will surely amplify the error.

Stopping breathing from plugging is just not gonna happen. It's not so rapid. Vaping a large dose can cause breathing problems because a large vaped dose will hit you like a sledgehammer and multiply any complications for 5x or 10x.

Good to know. Thanks.

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Sempiternity said:

Good to know. Thanks.

In the end you NEVER know. Which is why every chem has to be tested with tiny amounts to start.

The nice thing with vaping is that you can take tiny puffs and slowly dial up. But still, a cocky noob could mess this up by taking a giant rip.

[SpiritualAwakening]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

In the end you NEVER know. Which is why every chem has to be tested with tiny amounts to start.

So how do you plug tiny amounts ?

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, SpiritualAwakening said:

So how do you plug tiny amounts ?

Start with 10mg

10mg of basically any tryptamine will not kill you and will rarely produce a super strong trip.

10mg is a safe starting point for plugging almost anything.

[SpiritualAwakening]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Start with 10mg

And this could also be done with the Synthetic "Not for human consumption research chem" form ?