Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Red-White-Light said: @SirVladimir It was great. I knew how to focus on actuality, e.g. my hand or the room. I didn't really know how to turn that awareness inwards. I got a few techniques and they really helped. It produces a breakthrough experience. I woke up today with slightly elevated consciousness. That's awesome. Keep at it. Soon the walls of the inner temple will melt, and a knight will enter the castle, cantering on a white horse: You. What he once swore was outer, will be part of the inner sanctum. Oh, how the trees will welcome him! How the birds will sing, praising the arrival of the king! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) so Leo believes in the present moment only his POV is all there is? Edited December 1, 2020 by Lyubov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lyubov said: so Leo believes in the present moment only his POV is all there is? It's not his POV, same as this isn't yours. You are a huge spinning colorful abomination looking at itself from different angles. In the process of unification, "Leo" is a starting position, same as "Lyubov" is -- or so it appears. As the snowdrifts waft your heels, you two begin to meet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Let me rephrase: Leo believes there is only one POV in the present moment and all "other" aren't experiencing a POV? Edited December 1, 2020 by Lyubov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 @Lyubov I don't know about there being different POV's or not, but I think the video focused more on getting you into your direct experience and shatter all your concepts. So you can identify that this right here is god. Because in your direct experience there is no other POV. There is also no you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lyubov said: Let me rephrase: Leo believes there is only one POV in the present moment and all "other" aren't experiencing a POV? One is too many Edited December 1, 2020 by SirVladimir Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 @Leo Gura It is my first post so sorry for being a bit long. I follow your work for years now and I am always impressed by the depth of it. This video is sublime but it also confuses me a bit. I have difficulty to understand why my awareness is the only thing that is real and everything else is just a construct of our imagination. I hope you can give me some clarity. I consider myself mostly at the construct aware stage so the quest for models and insights is still important ? First I need to explain my background a bit so you can see where I am coming from. While science has its limits and scientists even more so, I learned a lot by studying the work of some scientists, mostly physicists and cosmologists, that went beyond the current understanding of science and tried to answer (meta)physical questions of existence. In retrospect, I believe some of them had enlightened experiences and must be at the construct aware stage (or even beyond). Julian Barbour comes to mind as he let me grasp the timeless and scale-invariant, fractal-like nature of the universe while anchoring general relativity and quantum mechanics within it. Those insights and insights I got by contemplating existence for more than two decades got me to a level of understanding that is at many levels surprisingly well aligned with your enlightened work. It allowed me to grasp why something exists as well as the irrelevance of non-existence. I also understood that the structure of existence needs to be non-dual, holistic in nature and self-contained. It needs to be complete and encompass the realm of all possibilities. If we could describe it with a theory of everything (an imaginary concept as logic and mathematics have its limits), this theory needs to be parameter-free or it would be incomplete. Parameter changes will not change the structure of the universe. As a consequence of its self-contained nature, it has strange loops and paradoxes. Intelligent life is such a strange loop as it allows the universe (aka god) to reflect upon itself although it can get stuck in an imaginary, lower level closed-loop (the ego). While trying to imagine it as a field of consciousness, its integrated properties equate to nothing (zero energy and matter) while still encompassing everything in its infinite, fractal-like structure. From that viewpoint I see humans, animals, things as local portals of awareness with immediate access to different levels of reflection capabilities (ego, thoughts). They are limited in the sense that they cannot grasp the full nature of their being, if stuck in the constructs of ego and thoughts, unless an enlightenment allows them to roam free. From that point of view, the universe, is a conscious field and it exists while containing in essence nothing (in its overall properties) and everything (in its structure) at the same time. Other people are part of this structure and equally real and are ‘you’ but from another vantage point and with immediate access to different parts of reality (in particular the complex brain with its constructed ego and thoughts). So while, from my vantage point, my awareness is the only thing that is real and accessible for me, I do not consider the other as a just dreamed up. The other is real as well. Am I missing something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 Yup I am God *Stares at hand* Still... there's more "Unburdened and Becoming" - Bon Iver ◭"89"◮ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 beautiful exercise, thanks Leo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 It seems like everybody here realized that they are gods, but what to do next? Watch some porno?? The whole video is just another idea that you will be attracted to somehow. It still part of the ego. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Peterc123 said: @Leo Gura It is my first post so sorry for being a bit long Welcome Quote I have difficulty to understand why my awareness is the only thing that is real and everything else is just a construct of our imagination. I hope you can give me some clarity. Nope, I will not give you clarity. You must awaken to what "other" is. No amount of explanation will suffice. Quote So while, from my vantage point, my awareness is the only thing that is real and accessible for me, I do not consider the other as a just dreamed up. The other is real as well. Am I missing something? Yeah, you're missing consciousness of what "other" is, and what you are. All your ideas about awakening and God are wrong. Throw them away. They will always be wrong no matter how hard you try to make them right. The most advanced things I talk about occur at super-human levels of consciousness which are completely beyond anything you've ever experienced or could imagine is possible to experience. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Fadl said: The whole video is just another idea that you will be attracted to somehow. It still part of the ego. How heavy is this thought to carry? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, SirVladimir said: How heavy is this thought to carry? The end of the road is nothing, you don’t know AND you will never know … that is Love, otherwise it is just an ego trip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 1, 2020 I liked the dissidendification process as it resulted in deep relaxation and a sense of peace that i have not experienced since i daily practiced Eckhart Tolles Power of Now/New Earth. I did not get it, atleast i know now that i never got it to this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 2, 2020 On 30/11/2020 at 9:00 AM, acidgoofy said: gonna watch it again on my next trip for sure Good idea. I might wait on this one. “The psychotic drowns in the same waters in which the mystic swims with delight.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Leo Gura said: Nope, I will not give you clarity. You must awaken to what "other" is. No amount of explanation will suffice. Im a bit confused about what is ment by awakening. I understand it has to be experienced because words will never do the trick, but I hold in my mind that awakening simply is a the same as an insight, just a deeper insight into a facet of the nature of reallity. Awakening = profound insight into reallity. Yes or no? This is not a Signature [TBA] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 2, 2020 @mmKay The confusion is exactly what you must face and work threw yourself. Allow yourself to not know, accept it, and trust that the practices will bring you there. Or here The how is what you build, the why is in your heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 2, 2020 We need a part 2!!! There is so much to throw away!!! Delusion goes deep! Dont look at me! Look inside! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 2, 2020 After watching the video ... Tell me why I exist and I'm experiencing this? why I do thinking using a language that has been invented before by others? why I can't think outside of the invented words that I learned? Humanity (with capital H) is something bigger than having a body. Sometimes I choose wrong choices while I know that is wrong sometimes I'm weak but I'm living even at that moment I'm feeling weak and that is Humanity. Half GOD, Half CREATURE. That's why you are telling me and showing me that I'm god because your half creature wants to show others your other half, you don't need to do this if you are a pure God. Maybe my definition of God is different than yours. God has to be infinite, and I can be Infinite but I'm not because I'm living on that bubble you explained, and that's limit. The God is Infinite. maybe god shaped into a human but I will never know while I'm alive because I'm that shaped God and this shape is The Humanity with weaknesses, fears, and limits and this is the important key because THE MOMENT I'm living and the moment I'm conscious, I shaped into a limited human thinking with limited words of a limited language. But the question is, why I choose this shape If I'm the god? Why do I need to live in a shape? Why would I like to be limited? many whys are here... did I have a need to do this while I was the Infinite God before I shaped? IF I DID... A HAD A NEED, and that's a paradox because the Infinite god has no need ( maybe for a reason, I exist to learn something or I'm just doing a mental masturbation I don't know...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 2, 2020 @Behrad behrad does not exist. Perhaps it is God by association, but it is not real and does not think and does not feel. You, however are not Behrad. You may operate under the banner of Behrad, but that doesn't make it true. Start there and try the video again. Check out my lucid dreaming anthology series, Stars of Clay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
