MAGA Insanity

[Jodistrict]

I believe this is a result of social media.  The main stream media no longer controls the source of news, and hence the source of reality making.  Anyone now can create news and put it on YouTube, adding to the noise and confusion.  Worse yet, there are tons of scam artists and psychopaths who are more than willing to take advantage of the new technology.   Also, the main stream media itself is corrupted by money and power and is no longer accurate.  I still remember the live speech broadcast with Colin Powell explaining in front of the UN with charts and photographs the “evidence” showing Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.  How is this any different than the allegations of election fraud propagated without evidence?

[Forestluv]

8 minutes ago, Jodistrict said:

I believe this is a result of social media.  The main stream media no longer controls the source of news, and hence the source of reality making.  Anyone now can create news and put it on YouTube, adding to the noise and confusion.  Worse yet, there are tons of scam artists and psychopaths who are more than willing to take advantage of the new technology.   Also, the main stream media itself is corrupted by money and power and is no longer accurate.  

I agree that social media has become extremely influential and rivals MSM - they seem to be in a symbiotic relationship that can both cooperative and conflicting. 

Anyone can create news and put it on YT, including scam artists and psychopaths - yet they won't have a large platform. If I created a YT video of misinformation and it gets 23 views - that is irrelevant noise that fades into the background. The bigger platforms have much more influence and those with money and power have an advantage over regular people.

I don't think it's fair to say "The MSM itself is corrupted by money and power and is no longer accurate". This is a binary construct that makes it easy to dismiss 100% of MSM as inaccurate, Fake News. Yet this isn't the case. I think it's more fair to say that MSM is corrupted by money / power and has conflicts of interest - which causes some inaccurate information. The flip side of that is MSM is serving what the public demands. Fox News is not feeding their viewers with the conspiracy theories they demand - so they are going to OANN and Newmax. Richard Murdoch cannot fully change this dynamic.

Another example I see of this is with the covid vaccine. Pharmaceutical industries have aspects of corruption and toxic capitalism as seen with unethical data manipulation on Tamiflu and the opioid crisis. Yet this doesn't mean the pharmaceutical industry is 100% corrupted and liars. Turning a blind eye to pharmacy corruption is problematic, yet a binary construct in which biotech is 100% corrupted is also problematic. I'm seeing a lot of anti-vaccers  saying they don't trust corrupted pharmaceutical companies. This is overly simplistic. Pharmaceutical companies do some bad corrupted work for profits AND do some good work beneficial to society. Yet this is a nuanced view that takes time and effort. One would need to pause and say "Wait a minute, I'm hesistant about the vaccine due to pharmaceuticals acting poorly in the past. Therefore, I'm going to research the clinical vaccine trials and the opinions of various experts critiquing the results". In this context, it seems like the biotech companies are being transparent about their results - and this issue is so big that if they got caught lying about results, there would be hell to pay. It's not like withholding some data on an anti-psychotic that only a 100k people would take. 

[ItsNick]

Right wing propaganda is a big, big problem. Especially now with the internet it's easier to rot people's mind.

[Free Mind]

3 hours ago, Forestluv said:

In an effort to explore this insanity, I've been interacting with some MAGAs on twitter. I'm shocked by how far I can create insane theories without losing MAGAs. A few things I've learned is to remove all logic, reason and sense of authority. About 10% of truth is needed as a foundation to build ludicrous theories. And it's best to use seeds they've already been conditioned with. For example, creating insane stories using a combination of pre-seeded components such as: Hilary's emails, Hunter's laptop, Venezuela communism, Hugo Chaves' algorithm, George Soros, Deep State, Bill Gates, unreleased Kraken evidence, censorship, cancel etc. Slip in trusted sources as Sydney Powell / Qanon and call anyone who disagrees "Fake News" communists. Lastly, throw in a bit about God and how we are the true patriots. 

For example, I created a story that Sydney's Kraken has eight limbs of unreleased evidence of mass fraud that stole the election. Hugo Chavez's is just one of eight limbs. Sydney has much more evidence she will be releasing in the next two weeks. Trump distanced himself from Sydney so she could dive deeper into investigating the Deep State plan. She has access to Hunter's laptop and evidence that he met with communists in Chavez's regime. Development of the algorithm was funded by George Soros and technological support was given by Bill Gates' Microsoft team. We are God's soldiers against the ghost of Chavez stealing the election with a sneaky algorithm. We've got Sydney Kracken headin' the charge!!! Trump's team is intentionally losing court cases so they can quickly appeal to scotus and reveal all this information. Why would we release this information to lower courts filled with Obama libtards? The Fake News will just create a smokescreen to censor the evidence and cancel us. In two weeks, we will be releasing the #KrakenOnSteroids to scotus. Timing is everything and we still have time. Keep the faith MAGA. America will soon wake up. 

The above story is complete BS I made up with pre-seeded MAGA keywords. I was shocked by how much MAGA support I get. I deleted most of the nonsense because it was getting so many MAGA likes and retweets. I didn't want the B.S. amplified. Below are some typical MAGA responses to the B.S. story I made up.

"I have faith in Sidney, Trump, Rudy, Jenna... it’s the criminal piece that we won’t see DOJ on- just like Durham & 30 special counsels before...all investigations of smoke & mirrors. We have to start from ground up and reduce government". God bless Patriots".

"Fake News is literally a communist “war tactic” ... The psychological, mental warfare tactics are huge piece of war, training & discipline- you can breeze by the memes - but there sickening"

"Take heart. Folks like you & I know what’s going on.  We will not allow getting closer than we are now to Socialism-We are at cusp—It May get horrific, painful- beyond our comprehension but we will never be socialist Country too many Patriots"

As long as I use MAGA keywords, I'm perceived as on their side and frame the other side as extremist socialists / communists, none of their responses question any claims I make. If I'm perceived as a MAGA patriot against the evil communists, nearly any ludicrous claims I make are accepted - as long as it doesn't come across as obviously condescending or mocking to them. 

One thing I've noticed, is it is MUCH harder to persuade and pull someone out of their conspiracy theory rabbit hole, than it is to pull someone deeper into a rabbit hole of nonsense. For example, I've tried to speak to MAGAs about how it's unreasonable to believe a Chavez algorithm stole the election and it was discovered because so many people voted for Trump it broke the algorithm. I would be immediately dismissed as a communist that is brainwashed with Fake News. Yet if I make up a story about how Hugo Chavez secretly met with Soros and Bill Gates in 2009 to create an algorithm to defeat Trump in 2020 - yet Fake News wants to censor this because they are communists that hate freedom - MAGA is open and believe it. 

 

 

Terrifying to say the least.

[Lyubov]

 

[Forestluv]

Major corporations are re-aligning to a Biden presidency. 

So far, Trump's power is slowly bleeding away. 

 

[Leo Gura]

Imagine being such a big devil that even giant corporations are like, "We can't go along with you on this, we got morals."

[Lyubov]

lurked some right wing message boards. the meltdown and delusion is so thick it can be cut with a knife. 

[Roy]

6 hours ago, ItsNick said:

Right wing propaganda is a big, big problem. Especially now with the internet it's easier to rot people's mind.

All propaganda is a big, big problem. Right wing just mobilizes the most downtrodden.

Nobody gives a shit about the truth, which is the issue. Or at least even half of the truth, would be a nice start.

People are far too concerned about their own agendas, and are happy with only pats on the back from like minded individuals. Rather than reaching out an olive branch.

[Preety_India]

43 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

lurked some right wing message boards. the meltdown and delusion is so thick it can be cut with a knife. 

Just imagine if these right wing message boards called Trump the ultimate Alpha. Just imagine. 

 

[Willie]

49 minutes ago, Roy said:

All propaganda is a big, big problem. Right wing just mobilizes the most downtrodden.

Nobody gives a shit about the truth, which is the issue. Or at least even half of the truth, would be a nice start.

People are far too concerned about their own agendas, and are happy with only pats on the back from like minded individuals. Rather than reaching out an olive branch.

It’s just the path of least resistance. Accepting the truth and letting go of beliefs isn’t easy.

[Forestluv]

I don't know if the DoD has ever come out with a formal statement acknowledging a president-elect and their alignment with the president-elect. This seems significant to me. Today seems like the day it really did end for Trump. 

I think Biden's team has played it well. It will be interesting to see how Green criticism of Biden is tolerated from Orange. 

 

[Willie]

Yup, people doing their jobs as normal is noteworthy in 2020. That’s how insane things have gotten.

[Extreme Z7]

Epic MAGA Tears Compilation

 

[Lyubov]

 

[Extreme Z7]

19 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

 

Sooooo. . . is he implying that Trump's already lost?

[Loving Radiance]

16 hours ago, Forestluv said:

One thing I've noticed, is it is MUCH harder to persuade and pull someone out of their conspiracy theory rabbit hole, than it is to pull someone deeper into a rabbit hole of nonsense. For example, I've tried to speak to MAGAs about how it's unreasonable to believe a Chavez algorithm stole the election and it was discovered because so many people voted for Trump it broke the algorithm. I would be immediately dismissed as a communist that is brainwashed with Fake News. Yet if I make up a story about how Hugo Chavez secretly met with Soros and Bill Gates in 2009 to create an algorithm to defeat Trump in 2020 - yet Fake News wants to censor this because they are communists that hate freedom - MAGA is open and believe it.

Of course, the identity is tied to that.

[yetineti]

@Forestluv I love you. Even though your ‘Twitter fun’ actually scares the shit out of me and idk what to do about it - I love you - that’s hilarious - I want to try it now ?

[Carl-Richard]

@Forestluv I see parallels between your observations and the problem of deep vs. shallow learning in school. School often consists of shallow learning in the early stages and you don't really get to cultivate deep meaningful understanding before you reach higher education, and of course that is where the republicans tend to fall off. It means you can essentially get along by picking up on the right concepts but not really picking up on the underlying connections or meaning in a piece of text.

[Lyubov]