Is there a objective reality?

[Shin]

«Reality» is already confusing.

Imagine the truth !

 

[abrakamowse]

4 minutes ago, mandyjw said:

No perspective, not one though. Not two, but that doesn't mean one. 

Right! ?

I was trying to simplify the idea for him ... but you are right. 
 

Not one, not two.

?

[Gesundheit]

No need for mental gymnastics. I simply don't know, neither does anyone else.

Consider the following pattern image extended to infinity:

How many triangles are there? Infinity, of course.

But what is a triangle? What's its nature? Why are there triangles in the first place? And why are they in different colors?

[Claymoree]

2 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

No need for mental gymnastics. I simply don't know, neither does anyone else.

Consider the following pattern image extended to infinity:

How many triangles are there? Infinity, of course.

But what is a triangle? What's its nature? Why are there triangles in the first place? And why are they in different colors?

I see rhombs!  

[Gesundheit]

8 minutes ago, Claymoree said:

I see rhombs!  

That's duality. It's accessible to all visionaries.

[AnthonyR]

Sure both you and your friend will see a tree because you call it a “tree” then you go further in your judgement of that tree by saying it’s either beautiful or ugly.

The reality is that independent of your mind and your thoughts there is actually no such thing as a “tree”, but of course that does not discount the fact there there is this huge gigantic green leafy thing sticking out of the ground that we humans have called a “tree”..

So what are you looking at when you look at a tree?  The fact of the matter is you’re looking at your own self.  That can be said no matter where you look, and with whatever sense apparatus is doing the perceiving.  The tree along with everything perceived cannot exist without consciousness to understand and make sense of this reality configuration. 

Also notice that when you scan your environment you do not scan individual objects.  You scan a multitude of objects, all at once, all the while your ears are picking up various sounds and your nose is picking up various smells.  This is your consciousness unfolding before you like a living, dynamic painting.  As this painting unfolds, the minds jumps in and begins a process of segregating and labeling and identifying and giving meaning.

In reality everything is made of Consciousness.  This Consciousness is not your Consciousness that is independent of your friends Consciousness.  This Consciousness is You and it is also your friend.  There is just the one Consciousness that is shared.  You can say it’s “one” thing.  But once you get there and understand it’s just one thing. Drop the “one” and drop the “thing” and it just IS, it’s You, it’s the Uni-verse. ... It’s pure Silence.

Edited November 17, 2020 by AnthonyR

[tsuki]

You and your friend are the same reality, the same experience, of the infinite mind. The person is a finite mind within the infinite mind, but the source of consciousness is one. There are things that the finite mind receives and there are things that the finite mind creates, but there is no tree apart from experience. The infinite mind looks through your eyes at its own beauty.

[Adamq8]

There is no objective world in that sense,  there is only conciousness, all you have ever experienced is conciousness ? infinite awareness contracted into objects and limited minds.

[Cosmin_Visan]

Check-out Donald Hoffman's ideas:

 

[Mason Riggle]

Notice that all 'objects' exist to you 'subjectively'.. (to whom or for whom do objects exist? some subject).

Then notice that your subjective experience, objectively exists.  

Something is happening right now. That you are having some 'subjective experience', is objectively true. 

 

Edited November 17, 2020 by Mason Riggle

[abrakamowse]

11 hours ago, Shin said:

«Reality» is already confusing.

Imagine the truth !

 

This is so cool...