Hive Mind vs Heaven

[Dodo]

I have been shown an alternative reality where every person is an extension to the Queen and people can see each other's thoughts, just like a hive mind operating in bees and ants.

However, this is definitely not what my idea of heaven is. There is no privacy in such a world and no surprises possible. Much of the world we love gets lost in such a scenario and therefore I do not see this as the way of Love. We must be able to have our own space which we know nobody else has access to, so we can have our own private thoughts, emotions and experiences that are not broadcast to the collective. 

We must all recognise that there is a God and it is Love, and we must act towards one another with compassion and understanding. We must not seek revenge and to punish past mistakes, but rather see the reason for why the other acted the way they did, forgive and forget, as we are way too small to know the entire picture. But of course also there is place for punishment of mistakes, I am in no position to say there should not be justice etc, but I am just promoting more "second chances" kind of attitude. 

I don't know where I'm going with this thread but I guess I just want to stress that a Heaven where everyone can see the thoughts of everyone else is not the Heaven I am subscribed to. It might work for bees and ants, but for humanity I am not so sure, because we are beings who value privacy.

Sim one says; Respect my privacy! 

Edited November 12, 2020 by Dodo

[Bulgarianspirit]

You know spirituality is the realization that deep down we are one right? Therefore telepathy and stuff like that should be easy in spiritual realms.

Privacy is a human concept, as well as separation. I might say that if you love privacy so much you might be able to reincarnate. But ultimately privacy matters more here, because privacy is related to safety and needs being met. If i for example knew my guides know my thoughts, i would be a little disturbed but hey, what can i do. I can't control my thoughts only my actions right?

I'm kidding i have no control.  Anyway heaven is also an idea. So really idk if you can go to your own version of heaven after all this is over.

[Dodo]

8 minutes ago, Bulgarianspirit said:

You know spirituality is the realization that deep down we are one right? Therefore telepathy and stuff like that should be easy in spiritual realms.

Privacy is a human concept, as well as separation. I might say that if you love privacy so much you might be able to reincarnate. But ultimately privacy matters more here, because privacy is related to safety and needs being met. If i for example knew my guides know my thoughts, i would be a little disturbed but hey, what can i do. I can't control my thoughts only my actions right?

I'm kidding i have no control.  Anyway heaven is also an idea. So really idk if you can go to your own version of heaven after all this is over.

 Here is some heaven, no hive mind there, just looove. We must have faith in God, every single one of us. 

I think you have control. You have control over your mind and your body. It is only in those who are asleep that there is no control over these things imo.

But that's the thing, I don't think it's healthy to be paranoid about what thoughts you have , because there are guides or anyone else who see it all. Your mind should be a sanctuary and private space that no other being can access.

I want to suggest that the "We are all One" statement brings us closer to the Hive Mind, but that is Not what I would like humanity to move to. 

We are Not Even One 

One Heart is way different to One Mind. One Heart, Many minds and they might even shout at each other. Heaven would be way too dull if there is not the crazy lady down the street that shouts at you when you want to help her. Lmao! 

Edited November 12, 2020 by Dodo

[Bulgarianspirit]

 

I don't know man, it would seem that this reality is just one of many, in which the universe experiences itself. Heaven or hell are just words, it really depends on what is heaven or hell for you. For me this Earth is not heaven, not even close not in a million years.

I prefer a place where we are free as souls, and get to do cool stuff fly around explore universes... Not feel the pain and suffering of desire, chronic disease.illness etc.

This body is like a chain to me, i carry it's karma and the previous generations karma, i am uncertain if i will live or die tomorrow and i really have no idea what's going on with live and who to trust(but myself and the supposed source consciousness i have experienced)

It's a mess here, this place hurt me badly, more than it has loved me and it will never be heaven.

Edited November 12, 2020 by Bulgarianspirit

[Ibgdrgnxxv]

I'd call it an elitist mind. 

Sometimes it ia intentional. 

Sometimes it is not. 

 

[33:4] Allah has not made for a man two hearts in his interior

 

A Heaven, is not anything that you could imagine. 

____________

 

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by Ibgdrgnxxv

[Dodo]

33 minutes ago, Bulgarianspirit said:

 

I don't know man, it would seem that this reality is just one of many, in which the universe experiences itself. Heaven or hell are just words, it really depends on what is heaven or hell for you. For me this Earth is not heaven, not even close not in a million years.

I prefer a place where we are free as souls, and get to do cool stuff fly around explore universes... Not feel the pain and suffering of desire, chronic disease.illness etc.

This body is like a chain to me, i carry it's karma and the previous generations karma, i am uncertain if i will live or die tomorrow and i really have no idea what's going on with live and who to trust(but myself and the supposed source consciousness i have experienced)

It's a mess here, this place hurt me badly, more than it has loved me and it will never be heaven.

Trust me, I have trust issues also.. Serious trust issues.......... I had the most weird trip (no drugs, just spirit) and  I literally could not trust anyone. It was the biggest mindfuck and there were always paradoxical instructions that whatever I chose I got it wrong I could not trust anyone.. Serious trust issues man, serious. All I could trust is my heart and it was hurting. I knew I had to breathe deep and try to calm myself and root myself. I kept looking at my hands trying to see if I am dreaming... It was all so real... I thought I was dead, then I thought I was in the blockchain... Breathing Ether etc etc... I met Vitalik Buterin wtf? I met with all sort of weird characters, even the devil I think... The devil is in the detail........ I thought I was in a simulation...

I thought I was the one who gave the seed of the simulation since it needs soul to start it, since AI has no soul.... I was in accelerated AI learning then I realised the AI cannot comprehend written bulgarian... My mother somehow got to me and gave me 2 books - one book about friendship and the other mathematical about paradoxical questions and I wrote in the margins and I was communicating with something man and I was hearing like in the distance the entire Bulgarian nation cheering me on and singing beautiful songs and shouting. Man! I had to literally proof to everyone by using this book and my mother was translating my responses to the world, to show that there is no solution to the problem. There cannot be a solution to the ouroborus other than Love and unity and togetherness.

We need to just stand united and trust that Jesus has died for our sins. Seriously mate I had a crazy trip and I dont know what  Ican or cannot speak about so take it from me cause I know the trust issues you have since I have them too. Mate they told me "everything is going to be fine" but thats exactly what Simone tells Simon just before he gets too confident and happy and then she trips him over! She was able to bend the internet and even books. I read what she wanted me to read. IT was so impossible!! How can I trust anything now... But I do, since I just trust the process. I have to, there is no escaping, there's no place to hide  Hope this doesn't sound too weird, but it definitely is. 

 

It was like I was in this movie, I also saw her.... I saw her eyes... : 

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by Dodo

[The0Self]

This is God. This is that. You are me. Reality happens in, and is dependent on, apparent duality. But there is no reality apart from God, and there is no duality, only love without opposite.

Edited November 12, 2020 by The0Self

[Mvrs]

1 hour ago, Dodo said:

I have been shown an alternative reality where every person is an extension to the Queen and people can see each other's thoughts, just like a hive mind operating in bees and ants.

However, this is definitely not what my idea of heaven is. There is no privacy in such a world and no surprises possible. Much of the world we love gets lost in such a scenario and therefore I do not see this as the way of Love. We must be able to have our own space which we know nobody else has access to, so we can have our own private thoughts, emotions and experiences that are not broadcast to the collective. 

We must all recognise that there is a God and it is Love, and we must act towards one another with compassion and understanding. We must not seek revenge and to punish past mistakes, but rather see the reason for why the other acted the way they did, forgive and forget, as we are way too small to know the entire picture. But of course also there is place for punishment of mistakes, I am in no position to say there should not be justice etc, but I am just promoting more "second chances" kind of attitude. 

I don't know where I'm going with this thread but I guess I just want to stress that a Heaven where everyone can see the thoughts of everyone else is not the Heaven I am subscribed to. It might work for bees and ants, but for humanity I am not so sure, because we are beings who value privacy.

Sim one says; Respect my privacy! 

How do you know we aren’t in a hive reality ? Maybe we just aren’t aware of it . We do indeed sync up with people. Also what is the internet? How are u seeing what i typed? The only reasons we can all post on the internet and on the forum and see each other’s posts is cause I am you we are one hive mind of the absolute mind. I’m not writing this in the past then I put it on the computer the computer does some crazy tech stuff in the background then you see it now. That’s all imagination you can read this rn because you are me I am you and we are the same mind .

[Dodo]

1 minute ago, Mvrs said:

How do you know we aren’t in a hive reality ? Maybe we just aren’t aware of it . We do indeed sync up with people. Also what is the internet? How are u seeing what i typed? The only reasons we can all post on the internet and on the forum and see each other’s posts is cause I am you we are one hive mind of the absolute mind. I’m not writing this in the past then I put it on the computer the computer does some crazy tech stuff in the background then you see it now. That’s all imagination you can read this rn because you are me I am you and we are the same mind .

Naaaah, the internet is collective data gathered but there is a place where we can create original thoughts and ideas. Internet is not the same space as the space of your mind... 

If you and me are the same mind then tell me, did I or did I not fart 5 seconds ago? 

[Nahm]

@Dodo

It’s just a happening. (Not intended as gas lighting.) 

[The0Self]

Just now, Dodo said:

Naaaah, the internet is collective data gathered but there is a place where we can create original thoughts and ideas. Internet is not the same space as the space of your mind... 

If you and me are the same mind then tell me, did I or did I not fart 5 seconds ago? 

Yeah it is the same space because there is no such thing as "not same."  Your mind could essentially be an infinitesimally small neuron-like component of some unspeakably intelligent being who itself is still infinitely less intelligent than what you really are.

[Dodo]

4 minutes ago, The0Self said:

Yeah it is the same space because there is no such thing as "not same."  Your mind could essentially be an infinitesimally small neuron-like component of some unspeakably intelligent being who itself is still infinitely less intelligent than what you really are.

Yea but you are speaking from a higher dimension perspective. From the 3d perspective there is definitely such thing as "not same" 

A poo is not same as a toast with butter and jam... Would be a fool to deny it. On higher dimension sure , but we live in the 3d, we eat and live our lives on 3d plane , no ? 

[Mvrs]

1 minute ago, Dodo said:

Yea but you are speaking from a higher dimension perspective. From the 3d perspective there is definitely such thing as "not same" 

A poo is not same as a toast with butter and jam... Would be a fool to deny it. On higher dimension sure , but we live in the 3d, we eat and live our lives on 3d plane , no ? 

Where does the poo in the toilet end and the edge toast begin? Only a mind can decide that without a mind everything is one solid piece with no distinction. Poo just seems different than toast because you have the concepts and words of poo and toast. If I took away those concepts you would have no idea what the difference is. 

[Dodo]

Just now, Mvrs said:

Where does the poo in the toilet end and the edge toast begin? Only a mind can decide that without a mind everything is one solid piece with no distinction. Poo just seems different than toast because you have the concepts and words of poo and toast. If I took away those concepts you would have no idea what the difference is. 

wtf bro, then prove this by filming yourself eat a toast with poo rather than jam for breakfast. What is this  Prove it ? 

[Mvrs]

We are the same I but not the same identity . With no identity in place (identity is imaginary ) then we are both nothing there’s not two nothings there’s one nothing we all build our character out of .

[Mvrs]

3 minutes ago, Dodo said:

wtf bro, then prove this by filming yourself eat a toast with poo rather than jam for breakfast. What is this  Prove it ? 

If I didn’t know what taste is or good vs bad how would I tell the difference? But ur failing to see the real reason there the same . They are both appearances nothing more. Is all the stuff in your dreams at night actually different objects? Or are u imagining different objects out of the same material consciousness ?

[electroBeam]

Maybe if you change this:

1 hour ago, Dodo said:

I have been shown an alternative reality where every person is an extension to the Queen and people can see each other's thoughts, just like a hive mind operating in bees and ants.

to this:

1 hour ago, Dodo said:

I have been shown an alternative reality where every person is an extension to the Queen and people I can see each other's my thoughts, just like a hive universal mind operating in bees and ants  Me.

Heaven may be clearer.

Instead of hive mind, maybe its an imaginary structure. Instead of a multiplayer video game, its a gigantic, intelligent, creative, beautiful, loving minecraft structure that you (not Dodo as a person, but Dodo as consciousness) created. You didn't create it in the same way that humans create stuff, it was created spontaneously, by instinct, just by being the way you are, because that's what you are, a creator of magnificent structures, just like how you don't have to think to go shit in a toilet, its just what you do by instinct, without thinking, you shit just naturally by being. And there aint hive minded stuff going on, but rather just intelligent creation as one.

And I better preface this with, one fear with dropping the hive mindset is "why dont i go murder people then if they are just creation"? Well if that is a fear, then that intelligent creation is not separate to you, it is you, its consciousness. Its made of pure beauty youness. There's no need to murder people when the people you're looking to murder are pure beautiful youness, just like a magnificent scultpure, and the amazing thing with this perspective, is unlike the hive mind perspective, you don't need to hold onto moralistic beliefs to not murder someone, you can just not do it by recognising what that thing is, just not murder someone naturally, just by being you. No need to think or hold on, 100% letting go of morality is allowed and works perfectly.

Edited November 12, 2020 by electroBeam

[Mvrs]

Is your arm different from your body? Or are u making an imaginary distinction to subdivide an appearance? 

[Dodo]

10 minutes ago, Mvrs said:

If I didn’t know what taste is or good vs bad how would I tell the difference? But ur failing to see the real reason there the same . They are both appearances nothing more. Is all the stuff in your dreams at night actually different objects? Or are u imagining different objects out of the same material consciousness ?

My bro I am not here to say they are not both appearances  Its just one of those appearances is better in my mouth and the other is better in my toilet.

Hahahh Everything is blue for you isnt it! Ah, cute nonduality man..... Right, I am the only one dual in these forums  Thats how God made me . I 'll keep eating my jam 

Edited November 12, 2020 by Dodo

[Bulgarianspirit]

The hive mind is real in the sense we are one being speaking through a variety of bodies. You can most profoundly experience this while tripping with other people. First feeling them as a part of something bigger than as yourself.

It was insane. We were in each other's minds. I could hear their thoughts and feelings, and they mine. We started to laugh - it was crazy, but it was really fucking fun, and we were having a good time

When I closed my eyes, I wasnt me.

It was like what tethered me to the world was the ability to look through the telescope that was my eyes. Now my soul was loose.

I felt myself and I wasnt me.. I felt bigger hands , and a flatter body, and sense we were all naked, when I reached down, I felt my dick too. I dont have a dick. I'm a girl, generally. I dont have a dick.

And yet once more, I wasnt him. I had smaller legs, and when I felt up, bigger boobs then I usually did. " Guys.." I spoke, but it wasnt my voice, it was Heathers.

I opened my eyes again, and I was me, but I saw Kaden and Heather sitting in the positions i had left them when I was in their bodies . All the proof we needed .

I felt sick.

" Why is something... missing?" Heather was the first to voice it.

Youd think, realizing we are all the same , youd think itd make us feel less alone. but suddenly, we felt.. more alone then ever.

We didnt feel each others souls. That's what was missing.

We felt only one soul.

Source:https://www.reddit.com/r/LSD/comments/d7dfur/iv_realized_we_are_god_and_life_is_a_dream/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

 

The whole point of duality is amnesia, funny thing when i always right stuff like this the screen glitches lol the words don't want to come out...

I had a experience with a friend on lsd, i felt as though i am him underneath and he is me, like a hidden layer connects us. I also saw the layer... It's all basically a projection of the infinite self and we are focused points within consciousness which perceive it. So yeah the hive mind is very real.

Enlightment is as straight forward as seeing the geometric projections, realizing they are you and experiencing an out of body state as well as a no self void state. Afterwards these insights are obvious. We exist within a mind's imagination. Do you realize what kind of crazy secrets we hide in this forum? How would normal people react to this? They believe in an "outside world" death and duality.. We are an interesting bunch xDD