The Collective Subconscious

[JosephKnecht]

The US elections in my mind are a collective battle between the human Ego(Trump) and the Human Spirit(Biden). 

The Ego aims to divide the United States while the Spirit tries to Unite. 

The Ego can't admit defeat and will try any possible way to stay in power. 

The Spirit accepts Reality as it is, good or bad.

The Ego corrupts all those around them by threatening their livelihood, while the Spirit uplifts all those around by seeking their cooperation.

The US election is God's Way of deciding if the US is ready for the next step of the collective evolution of society. 

Thoughts? 

[PurpleTree]

I generally don't agree with that analysis

 

What are your thoughts on Biden in the past?

[JosephKnecht]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

I generally don't agree with that analysis

 

What are your thoughts on Biden in the past?

I do agree that Biden is not the best representation of the Human Spirit. On the other hand, Trump is probably the best representation of the Human Ego that we will ever have.

[PurpleTree]

32 minutes ago, JosephKnecht said:

On the other hand, Trump is probably the best representation of the Human Ego that we will ever have.

That's maybe true. But imo it could have been even a lot worse, he could have started some big war(s) etc.

Biden was for the Iraq war i think and he threw tons of people in jail for small amount of drugs.

Just because one of them is "bad" doesn't make the other one "good"

He seems like a nice grandpa though

Video about Biden "Appeasing the right"

Video on how Biden "fueled mass incarceration"

I mean i guess at the time the second video came out, it was Biden vs Bernie so Democracy now was taking sides, but it's all fair points imo

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not saying he will be a bad/horrible president btw, we'll see how it goes, there are many good things about him too.

Edited November 11, 2020 by PurpleTree

[Parththakkar12]

1 hour ago, JosephKnecht said:

The US elections in my mind are a collective battle between the human Ego(Trump) and the Human Spirit(Biden). 

The Ego aims to divide the United States while the Spirit tries to Unite. 

The Ego can't admit defeat and will try any possible way to stay in power. 

The Spirit accepts Reality as it is, good or bad.

The Ego corrupts all those around them by threatening their livelihood, while the Spirit uplifts all those around by seeking their cooperation.

The US election is God's Way of deciding if the US is ready for the next step of the collective evolution of society. 

Thoughts? 

I think this is over-simplified and too much of an 'us vs them' narrative. I know, you'll say that 'I'm not necessarily judging the ego as bad, I'm just saying that Trump is an accurate representation of the ego'. I know that. Yet, I think this is over-simplified.

Your solution to the 'ego vs spirit' problem is to beat the 'ego' by taking the side of the 'spirit'. This is where the 'us vs them' dynamic gets created. The issue here is that we tend to assume that there is no truth or validity whatsoever to Trump's perspective, that he and his base are completely deluded. This is why we put Trump in the category of 'ego'. Wouldn't be so easy to do that if we saw the validity in his perspective. Then, if you find some truth in there, he'd be on the side of 'truth' or 'spirit'!

I am calling this out, especially on the Left, because this is exactly the kind of thinking that will lead to the civil war. If you ask me, the only way to avert a civil war is by seeing the validity in the perspectives of Trump and his MAGA fanbase.

[Preety_India]

Excellent analysis @JosephKnecht

The ego eventually collapses and the Spirit wins. 

[JosephKnecht]

2 hours ago, Parththakkar12 said:

The issue here is that we tend to assume that there is no truth or validity whatsoever to Trump's perspective, that he and his base are completely deluded. This is why we put Trump in the category of 'ego'. Wouldn't be so easy to do that if we saw the validity in his perspective. Then, if you find some truth in there, he'd be on the side of 'truth' or 'spirit'!

There is validity to the Ego. In the final analysis, the Ego is deluded, but the delusion is necessary. 

Most of the people who vote for Trump vote from their Ego. So about half of the country is at that level of evolution. 

Every perspective is valid, but no perspective is True.  

[Nahm]

What was once vision, ideas, laws & rights in the intrinsic sharing of one constitution, is now a collective projection of a puppet show, a nationalist cult of personalities. JFK was spot on, imo. As was Abe Lincoln, MLK, and the average person. 

[JosephKnecht]

5 hours ago, Nahm said:

What was once vision, ideas, laws & rights in the intrinsic sharing of one constitution, is now a collective projection of a puppet show, a nationalist cult of personalities. JFK was spot on, imo. As was Abe Lincoln, MLK, and the average person. 

Every outside projected authority eventually has to lose its authority. In the next few decades, Governments will lose their power and authority. The system has become too complex for one president to preside over all the people. When the system is too complex, no one person is competent enough to preside over it. In the next few decades, people will wake up and realize that politics is just a puppet show and the strings are being pulled by a bigger "invisible" power. 

Their powers of the president will become somewhat similar to the British Monarchy where the King is only a king in name but without any powers. 

I think the next step would be a return to a new form of direct democracy, but this time powered by transparency and technology. 

 

[Nahm]

@JosephKnecht

Yep.