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[Mvrs]

I had the benefit of first having satori when I was 16-17 years old. I cannot express how much different your life will be if you realize what’s going on. The game changes completely . You realize it’s a game . 

[Lews Therin]

Nice bro, my first time (satori) i had just made 21. When i was 17 i was a crippling mess of libertarian anxiety hahahah.

Wouldn't change my course for a thing though (why would i?)

How old are you now?

[Thewritersunion]

Mine was 14 lol

[Thewritersunion]

@Mikael89 you’re energy explodes outside your body (min) to you become god (Max)

[Lews Therin]

@Mikael89 Don't know if a can say what it is, i think it is beyond words, so i will tell you my experience.

I had been trying to meditate for close to a year, but it always felt like i was trying, and not meditating. One day, my last day in amsterdam, i ate some truffles in the way to the airport.

It had been a week at most since i learned about Alan Watts (but hadn't heard much), and for some reason, in this specific trip, i was feeling very present, like i had never before.

So i seat in the airplane chair and decide to use the oportunity of being so present to meditate.

So i start meditating and suddenly i am not feeling as present anymore, so afeter some moments i give up...

And i'm feeling very present again. So i decide to try again.

To no avail, as soon i start trying i am not present anymore. So i give up.

And suddenly i am feeling present again... This time though i start feeling i'm close to the middle beetwen being present and trying to meditate.

And then i hit a strange spot, i realize the difference beetwen the two moments, the diference was the very fact that i was trying!

As soon as i realize that it seems all the tension in my body evaporates, i realize all my life i had been trying to feel good, or to feel better, and all i had to do was to stop trying, I start laughing a lot. I also felt stupid i never realised that before, it seemed so obvious, as it was right under my nose my whole life, and until then i just couldnt see it.

I had never felt so good, felt so LIGHT! To the end of the day i felt amazing, waiting in lines, being on a car, everything was incredible. It was as if i was floating.

As Dr. Suzuki would say:  'well, it's like ordinary, everyday experience, except about two inches off the ground.'

 

[Lews Therin]

@Thewritersunion @Mvrs  Tell us your first experiences, must have been incredible at such a young age!

[Thewritersunion]

I notice I need less meditation to get an experience like that. 
 

I would share my experiences also but it’s late and I’m too lazy to write lmao. 

[Mvrs]

17 hours ago, Lews Therin said:

@Thewritersunion @Mvrs  Tell us your first experiences, must have been incredible at such a young age!

 

I won’t go into the full story but up until that day I had been an atheist the kind of person to jump on any religious dogma and call it out. I was really into quantum physics at the time just finding out about the double slit experiment and quantum entanglement. God seemed absurd to me. I had heard of enlightenment but I didn’t know anything about it. Up until this point I had been addicted to Lsd for about two years taking around 10-17 tabs at once every weekend non stop pretty much for two years . I was stupid asf don’t ever do that. Also I had just started making music about two years before as well. My normal trip would consist of me sitting there going through my music trying to improve it. One day I got some rick and Morty tabs from my friend and as with every tab I took one just to make sure it wasn’t n bombe but keep in mind I was taking like 17 at a time at this pint so I expected nothing. That night I que up a song I made a few months earlier called fate. Lmao, the lyrics explained my entire existence here to me and I finally understand what an ego death was. It’s just the realization that your in w “video game” and all u are is a characters. I fell to the floor crying it rocked me . So much weird shit happened that night that I can’t put into writing here . But after that it happened two more times the next two weeks and then I started to find out about enlightenment and realized everybody already knew what I was talking about . About a year after I found ram das and Alan watts, and like 3 years after I found Leo . I’m now 21 , this is the super short version of what happened it was beyond crazy. Since then I’ve had 2 other satoris but since then I live in full acceptance of me being god. I would be lying if I didn’t. And also Lsd ever since I realiz d those insights has completely stopped working all psychedelics have. I don’t gain any insight from them they don’t change my consciousness besides visuals anymore because I live with the knowledge it’s never gone. U could say I live in a constant minor satori . My main satoris tho I would be able to function normally in that state .

[Lews Therin]

Cool story, i had one ego death before getting to know spirituality, and it was weird as fuck, no satori though, i just thought i was high as a kite.

Alan Watts may very well be the strongest drug i've seen so far.

[Mvrs]

1 minute ago, Lews Therin said:

Cool story, i had one ego death before getting to know spirituality, and it was weird as fuck, no satori though, i just thought i was high as a kite.

Alan Watts may very well be the strongest drug i've seen so far.

idk how much he really knew , a lot of things he said I can’t confirm I’ve found the most truth in Leo’s teaching. Leo doesn’t use flowery words he shows u exactly how to explain these insights. As best as possible . And ego death can come in many forms you probably had the ego death where All meaning and concept disappeared . The ego death I’m speaking of or satori is realizing the ego is a character it’s super fake you made up your entire back story and your in charge of all of it Cause you are god . And this is ur purposeful dream. Heaven 

[Lews Therin]

29 minutes ago, Mvrs said:

idk how much he really knew , a lot of things he said I can’t confirm I’ve found the most truth in Leo’s teaching. Leo doesn’t use flowery words he shows u exactly how to explain these insights. As best as possible . And ego death can come in many forms you probably had the ego death where All meaning and concept disappeared . The ego death I’m speaking of or satori is realizing the ego is a character it’s super fake you made up your entire back story and your in charge of all of it Cause you are god . And this is ur purposeful dream. Heaven 

Alan watts knew a LOT. And it is specifically the way he said it that makes it clear for me. Leo explains things, it is easy for the rational mind to grasp.

Alan may explain a few thing, but generally he talks and talks and talks, to the point it seems he is just philosophising. Thing is, Zen, or enlightenment, can't really be explained, so you just listen an listen until the penny drops by itself, and then you realise Watts had been circling it over and over again for you to realise. The man was a genius, and i would put my hands in the fire for the claim that he understood reality and was as enlightened as one can be.

 

On the other question, my ego death was simply the dissolution of the barrier between inside and outside, it was as if the music was me, the people dancing were me, when i got agitated the music got agitated, when i was happy, everybody would jump and dance like crazy. What an experience, what a world, what a life!