Trump has a good side!

[TrustTheProcess]

@Preety_India My man is wrong for judging green, so don't get me wrong...

 

Just be aware of who you judge and who you hate. That is your shadow. 

[Preety_India]

Just now, louhad said:

@Preety_India My man is wrong for judging green, so don't get me wrong...

 

Just be aware of who you judge and who you hate. That is your shadow. 

Judgement is necessary. And my hate is mere criticism of Trump. It's not the hate you're thinking of, I don't wish death for anyone. 

This hate is simply a strong criticism of Trump which is absolutely essential if we were to choose good leaders and weed out bad leaders 

 

Being spiritual and robotic or "love all" mantra will not work in politics. No spiritual bypassing. People's lives are at stake. 

 

Wise judgement is called the power of discernment. 

Whereas judging someone who is good and and makes little mistakes is called real judging, the bad kind of judging. 

[TrustTheProcess]

@Preety_India there's a diff between hating someone and criticizing their actions/impact on the broader system. 

[Preety_India]

@louhad do you  understand that I'm criticizing Trump and strong criticism can appear as hate? 

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Preety_India

[TrustTheProcess]

@Preety_India look, I am just a display name on a screen on some forum site, take what I say with a grain of salt... but based on the energy of your comments, it does seem life there is a level of judgment/resentment against trump himself. He literally has the cognitive development of a 5 year old... he is doing the best he can. 

I am doing my own shadow work as well and judging conservatives has been something that I am working on. Maybe I am projecting that side of myself a bit... Just tryna be helpful.

[Thewritersunion]

Let’s just stop it with the Trump saga on the forums. He’s stage Red and we’re getting nowhere by discussing him. 

[Ananta]

1 hour ago, Preety_India said:

Stop blaming me dude!! 

Stop nitpicking on me. 

Welllll, you are very vocal lately! Some of it is offensive (on the political threads) and I'm not even that political.

On the other thread it wasn't just about your dislike of Trump, but also about how there can not be any unity in America. The Dems shouldn't try to unite with the Republicans, blah, blah...blah. You personally don't have to worry about a civil war, because you don't live here, but I do. 

It is really unbelievable to me that this is a forum with a strong spiritual over tone, usually, that has just gone to absolute shit since the election.. and Biden won!

So, what is the problem? 

Everyone judging, hating and talking shit. Lord, I'm outta here for awhile. You can all bitch to each other until you can't stand yourselves anymore.?

Peace out.✌

[Preety_India]

1 hour ago, Ananta said:

Welllll, you are very vocal lately! Some of it is offensive (on the political threads) and I'm not even that political.

On the other thread it wasn't just about your dislike of Trump, but also about how there can not be any unity in America. The Dems shouldn't try to unite with the Republicans, blah, blah...blah. You personally don't have to worry about a civil war, because you don't live here, but I do. 

It is really unbelievable to me that this is a forum with a strong spiritual over tone, usually, that has just gone to absolute shit since the election.. and Biden won!

So, what is the problem? 

Everyone judging, hating and talking shit. Lord, I'm outta here for awhile. You can all bitch to each other until you can't stand yourselves anymore.?

Peace out.✌

Even Leo said on the same thread that we can't unite with the devils. It's impossible to have a middle ground when core principles are opposite. 

Trump is undemocratic. No democrat can have a middle ground with his terms and conditions. 

 

[Preety_India]

2 hours ago, Mikael89 said:

I'm on @Preety_India's side on this one. She is a beautiful soul. And sometimes emotional, and that's beautiful too.

Thank you for the support. 

Being emotional and having empathy for the millions who died by Trump's inaction on Covid-19, people think that I'm being emotional. But they don't realize that when the life is on the line, emotions are very important for survival. 

If emotions weren't important, they wouldn't have been coded in our DNA. We are not born to be robots, but to be thinking, feeling, reasoning individuals. 

And my emotions aren't baseless. At least I have a firm reason to be emotional. A nation was in crisis because of Trump. No person with a heart can keep watching such destruction and not be vocal about it. 

Telling people to not be vocal is like suppressing the only voices that have the courage to speak. 

 

[Ananta]

7 hours ago, Preety_India said:

Telling people to not be vocal is like suppressing the only voices that have the courage to speak. 

I didn't say not to be vocal, I said you are vocal....but vocal ppl will also get judged by ppl who disagree, but you don't seem to handle that well. Seems you just want to talk shit to have that "it's us against them" feeling with no opposition.

Anyways, it takes no courage to talk shit. Don't fool yourself. 

[Preety_India]

1 minute ago, Ananta said:

Anyways, it takes no courage to talk shit. Don't fool yourself. 

I don't talk shit about Trump. I say the truth about Trump. Of course there will be some opposition. But the opposition should have some validity instead of just calling me hateful for criticising Trump. That's a non argument. 

Peace out. 

[Ananta]

19 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

I don't talk shit about Trump. I say the truth about Trump. Of course there will be some opposition. But the opposition should have some validity instead of just calling me hateful for criticising Trump. That's a non argument. 

Peace out. 

Ofc, you don't think the opposition has any validity. 

Anyways, I have better things to do.

Carry on with bashing Trump and 1/2 of America ??  

Edited November 10, 2020 by Ananta

[Raphael]

@Ananta Why do you support Trump?

[Ananta]

7 minutes ago, Raphael said:

@Ananta Why do you support Trump?

 I am not taking the bait. I only lean slightly to the right anyway.

As I said, got better things to do.

[ArchangelG]

That felt pretty authentic to me.

Why is it completely inconceivable to most people, that even Trump is capable of at least some empathy?

I mean the realm of possibility is infinite, so rarer things have probably happened

[Raphael]

@Ananta Ok.

[Danioover9000]

@ArchangelG

On 11/10/2020 at 1:20 PM, ArchangelG said:

That felt pretty authentic to me.

Why is it completely inconceivable to most people, that even Trump is capable of at least some empathy?

I mean the realm of possibility is infinite, so rarer things have probably happened

   Even the most inhuman human being will be empathetic, firstly to themselves, and secondly to their families. Trump is at least capable of this, despite having gone through his life facing many factors, physical and mental, that would've blunted this empathy.

[Danioover9000]

@louhad

On 11/10/2020 at 0:58 AM, louhad said:

lol, crying oneself to sleep is often much healthier than just pushing uncomfortable emotions beneath the surface and allowing them to manifest in neurotic and unconscious behavior. 

Good luck though my man. Many lessons to learn from all stages!

   Oh yes, so many lessons from not just the values of each stage, but the distinct moral development, cognitive development, and lines of development in different areas of one's life. Sometimes I contemplate hours before bed. This is another reason why I'm less vocal and dehumanizing towards people like Trump, as that part exists deep in my psyche as well, and the same for past humans that've been here.

[Danioover9000]

@Heart of Space

On 11/10/2020 at 1:12 AM, Heart of Space said:

Personally, as a single celled organism I look forward to reaching the enlightened stage of brown myself.

   Lmao yes, but stage brown is incomplete, not even stage coral is the pinnacle of absolute development. It's actually stage black, the unification of all stage colors and psychological development possible

[Danioover9000]

@Preety_India

On 11/10/2020 at 1:38 AM, Preety_India said:

And shows you how your lack of judgment can have you fooled! 

Btw you are judging me as stage green, as something bad. So even you're judging me. 

It's you who is carrying this shadow that stage green is emotional so it's automatically Illogical in your mind because you have rejected and repressed stage Green in your shadow. 

If I hate Donald Trump, it's not because of a shadow, but because of his actions or lack thereof. You're automatically assuming that I must like all liberals and Democrats and hate any conservative. You're so wrong. I'd hated Trump even if he were a Democrat and a liberal. Because actions are important, not stage of the Spiral or what you words anyone says

His actions are horrible, undemocratic, narcissistic, dangerously careless and self serving.

Stop blaming me dude!! 

Stop nitpicking on me. 

It's not my judgement which is dangerous, it's Donald Trump who is dangerous. 

 

   Actually, I can't lack of judgement, because while some judgment I'm self aware enough to make, some judgement runs under consciousness and is held in subconscious mind, the collection of true/false beliefs, and holder of all possible shadow selves.

   I'm not judging stage green as negative or bad. In fact, it's you that is putting words in my writing, and that's called projection. Every stage has a limit where it gets too much, and the trick is noticing that while not adding too much negative labelling on top of the excesses. For example, I don't like communists, so sometimes I can catch myself demonizing them. I actually don't like Trump, because I can see how ignorant he is, which I don't like to admit I was ignorant at one point, but also because I have that shadow self that has his qualities, which I myself don't like. However, his humor I like, because I find it funny, and because it humiliates the elite class that exists in the white house, which, tada, is a communist shadow self in me that likes that humiliation of the powerful.

   I may have some repression of and resist some parts of stage green values, morality, cognition and lines of development, but I'm open to developing myself to stage green, but growth occurs by going through a stage, in this case stage orange. This is important, because if I bum rush towards stage green, I run the risk of not integrating stage orange developments I have yet to fully learn, and like that, instead of me judging a new ager or hippy, later I become the hippy judging business or rationalists with the same hate as I had for hippies, while struggling with finance or with being reasonable.

   No, you hate Donald Trump because of a suppressed shadow self that has qualities to Trump's, not to mention negative traits in men you've pasted onto Trump, and any related traumas from men you've pasted onto Trump. It's a common collective shadow that traditionally raised women in India have in themselves, raised in a stage blue environment that's religious and traditional, that's more male dominated. In such an environment, it's easy for women to be jealous of the power gap experienced in terms of traditional gender roles of men and women.  The negative traits in men you don't like, are shadow self qualities, are theses for example: 'horrible, undemocratic, narcissistic, dangerously careless and self serving', which I suggest is good areas to do shadow work on yourself.

   I haven't put any blame on you, other than making a statement of observation about your position, a position of an outsider's perspective, living in India, giving an opinion, a figment of your imagination, on America's political climate, while you have little shared experience of what Americans have to go through on American soil. Also, statements on your possible shadow parts.

   I'm not nitpicking you, I'm replying to you replying to me.

   You claim your judgement is less dangerous than Trump's judgement. However, this claim is false because you d not have Trump's mind, and because you only have your mind and nobody elses, therefore judgements from your mind, self or others, is far dangerous than what others judge onto you.