Enlightenment -a Little Too Good?

[Dodo]

So from what ive heard, becoming enlightened is great, and "you" get all those sweet benefits or whatever... But what if what is needes if us is to stay in the apparent illusion and not to get enlightened? What if pain and suffering is what our purpose  is.. Maybe we were sent here to live through our sentence for crimes we have commited in another reality... And we shouldnt try to break out of prison, until they let us out... I mean maybe, if you get enlightened without trying, its all good, because they must have decided to let you out of the illusion, but if you seek escape from prison and succeed, maybe you will pay in a next life. Maybe seeking ego death isnt such a good thing if we look at the big picture? Maybe it is.. But how can we really know? We only see what we think is going to be good or bad with our current limited perceptions...

[Neo]

Isn't it all about leaving those perceptions behind? In any case, if there's a god out side of all this with a mater plan, that takes you right into the realm of religious belief because we couldn't prove is disprove it by any means.

[Dodo]

But there is always something bigger, isnt there, thats like, rule of infinity. Goes beyond eeligion cause even if there is religious god, there is also something above it. Over every infinity there is more. How long before its realized that there is an enlightenment within the enlightenment?  would be funny

Edited September 2, 2016 by Dodoster

[Neo]

You've been watching too much "The Matrix".

[Dodo]

2 minutes ago, Neo said:

You've been watching too much "The Matrix".

No actually, never been a huge fan. Titanic tho... Thats a movie!

Edited September 2, 2016 by Dodoster

[Neo]

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Titanic tho... Thats a movie!

Doesn't have a lot to do with Enlightenment though does it?

[aurum]

And maybe you're actually the reincarnation of the Buddha and Enlightenment is your destiny. Or maybe you'll just get hit by a bus tomorrow and none of this will matter.

Skepticism is good. But it's no reason to throw rationality out the window.

[WelcometoReality]

@Dodoster What if it is exactly like you describe it? What if it is not? Can you ever know this? Is this a trap to not change?

[Dodo]

12 minutes ago, WelcometoReality said:

@Dodoster What if it is exactly like you describe it? What if it is not? Can you ever know this? Is this a trap to not change?

But I cant trap myself into no change, i mean change is a fact of life, isn't it  

[WelcometoReality]

7 minutes ago, Dodoster said:

But I cant trap myself into no change, i mean change is a fact of life, isn't it  

Yes. It totally is. Yet many will hold onto things. They will resist change. Try to describe yourself as a person. Are some of it how you have been earlier in life and is it really the way you are right in this moment? I'm not saying you are this way but some people have "learned" how they are and act accordingly to that belief. ☺

[Dodo]

19 minutes ago, WelcometoReality said:

Yes. It totally is. Yet many will hold onto things. They will resist change. Try to describe yourself as a person. Are some of it how you have been earlier in life and is it really the way you are right in this moment? I'm not saying you are this way but some people have "learned" how they are and act accordingly to that belief. ☺

Well... Me as a person.. It's a very person-al question. Probably can't explain me as a person right at this moment, because it is beyond words. There are different aspects, dimensions and stuff about me as a person. I can talk about the outside, the shallow etc, I could also talk about the mind, who i am as what I have achieved, or who I am as to what thoughts I am choosing to generate and hold as truth. What believes I hold as truth... Basically many different things that I can delve into so I am not sure how someone can really describe themselves fully 100%. Then comes the question of describing your true self, rather then yourself as a person. 

We are always ourselves though, aren't we. When someone asks, describe yourself as a person, as you asked, I should just tell them. Well hey, I am a person, if you want a description, do it yourself, because I don't want to waste my time spending hours writing a long essay as to what a person is and what person I am. And there is no right answer either, because you've read somewhere that I am not a person, but a soul. Well maybe I am, but maybe I want to stay hidden behind my human. Maybe there is a reason I am here as this. And I do exist as a person. So I will kindly wait until I am no longer a person, but until then, I am what I am and I cannot escape from it. I also do not want to, because if you want to escape, that means that you are in a nightmare. I am currently waking up from a nightmare, but now things are looking so much brighter and I can see myself smiling again and feeling the joy of life. I love spirituality, because it is giving me constant peace and love in a world that couldn't care less. 

All that matters is to be a good boy or girl, whatever that means to you. The rest will take care of itself. We have to explode and be / do if we have to, OR WANT TO! Energise ourselves and lift up others too. There's no greater feeling, than feeling energetic and ready for whatever comes your way. Even if you fail, at least you've tried. No shame in failing, the shame is in giving up.

 

Edited September 3, 2016 by Dodoster

[WelcometoReality]

@Dodoster Yes. You don't have to describe it to me. Try and see it for yourself. I'll make an example. I had a belief that I was a shy person and that was based on earlier experiences. That belief about myself made me shy in the current experience. It was a form of resistance to change.

[Dodo]

I am a shy person. It allows me to be quiet and do my own shit. The silent/calm waters are the deepest, what my grandmother used to say  

[WelcometoReality]

37 minutes ago, Dodoster said:

I am a shy person. It allows me to be quiet and do my own shit. The silent/calm waters are the deepest, what my grandmother used to say