FBI director: China is 'greatest threat' to US

[abrakamowse]

6 hours ago, The Don said:

What can we do to prevent such a powerful state from abusing our God-given human rights?

Well, we can begin with Guantamo Bay first... how about that?

[snowyowl]

What God given rights? As far as I can see, the only rights we have are what we've (and our ancestors mainly) have struggled and fought for. China hasn't had a democracy yet, so their people are in for an uphill struggle if they want it. The CCP also appears scared about the prospect of 'splittists', and their country fragmenting (not yet acknowledging that they are occupying Tibet, or have lost Taiwan). 

In general through, can a one party state run a capitalist economy sustainably in the long term? I think they gave up on communism in the 1980s and have had economic growth since then. If they have a serious recession with unemployment etc then maybe the cracks will show. But then again, they managed to enforce the one child policy on a huge population, so they must have a very tight grip. 

[The Don]

12 hours ago, Mikael89 said:

CCP probably wont live long. It will implode like Soviet Union did.

Mikael, I would love that to be the case but China is a much powerful hegemon now. They're in full control of the People's Liberation Army.

Chinese people can't do a thing. They're oppressed as we're speaking now. Take a look at what's happening in Hong Kong or Taiwan.

Here's an excerpt from DW.com:

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China openly threatens Taiwan with invasion. The world assumes it will never follow through. Yet as Beijing flexes its muscles at home and abroad, is that being dangerously complacent?

Taiwan's Foreign Minister Joseph Wu is ringing the alarm, hoping that the world will pay attention to the profound threat emanating from China.

"The threat is very real and therefore Taiwan's preparation is also very serious," he told DW. "We are trying to deal with the military threat, day in and day out."

China's aggressive military probing has been going on for years — an unending stress test for the democratic island it claims as its territory.

But in 2020, the threat has taken on a new intensity. Over and over again, Taiwan has had to scramble fighters to intercept Chinese warplanes flying towards or even into Taiwan's airspace.

With China cracking down on freedoms in Hong Kong, accused of sweeping repression against the Uighurs in Xinjiang, expanding in the South China Sea, and clashing with India in the Himalayas, Taiwan is asking: Are we next?

All I'm saying is that the CCP is a threat to the free world, including us. And nobody seems to do anything about it. This is not about Spiral Dynamics. It's something much deeper which includes a real danger that must be eliminated.

Shouldn't we take the FBI seriously? Just asking.

Edited November 9, 2020 by The Don
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[Arcangelo]

For the first time in my life I agree with you @The Don  The CCP must be eliminated.

When I learnt about the concentration camps for kids I was really shocked, sad and angry.

Winnie Pooh is just as bad as Hitler.

But what can we do? Make a website? Go to face book? Make a Youtube video? A lot of people has done that, and nothing has changed. This has been going on for years now. Entire villages of Uighurs being vanished.

Just like the holocaust. Some people don't believe it. I told my uncle about the social credit score and how people were not allowed to take a plane or a train, and he didn't believe me. He laughed at me and said: -''Dude Chinese are all about money they will never do that'' and I am like: -''Just go to fucking Youtube and see it for yourself''

It was frustrating.

 

There will be a bloody war in the next 10-30 years US vs China.

I hope The USA wins. 

WARNING: graphic images viewer discretion is advised.

This girls are brave!

Edited November 9, 2020 by Arcangelo
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[erik8lrl]

 

[erik8lrl]

Go to China and see for yourself if the people are oppressed.

 

[erik8lrl]

 

[Rilles]

5 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

@erik8lrl I think you need to watch some https://www.youtube.com/c/ChinaUncensored Let me know if you find anything good about China.

Havent you people learned after 5 years of Actualized that its not all black and white? I lived in China for 3 years, there are people who are happy there actually, the government sucks yes, but its not a fucking dystopia. Otherwise I wouldnt have stayed there. 

[Rilles]

1 minute ago, Mikael89 said:

@erik8lrl

You do know that even in Nazi Germany the average citizen (who wasn't jewish or something) lived a good comfortable life?

False equivalence. 

Im just saying you guys looove to armchair philosophize, if you care about the Chinese people why dont you do something about it. 

[The Don]

I don't like Donald Trump to be honest but his administration is actually standing up to the Chinese Communist Party. Take a look at Mike Pompeo's Twitter account and you'll see what's going on with regards to China, a country that is run by an evil party that wants to take over the Western world.

I really want the CCP to vanish but without doing something about this, it will never happen.

Edited November 10, 2020 by The Don

[Rilles]

2 hours ago, The Don said:

I really want the CCP to vanish but without doing something about this, it will never happen.

Can you see what the consequences of destroying the CCP will be?

What will you replace it with?

How will you prevent another Civil War?

How do you know that destroying the CCP wont to lead to another dictatorship?

What effect could it have on the world economy? 

 

Just something to think about. 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Rilles

[Thewritersunion]

@The Don Only stage Yellow people will solve China. Socialism by its very nature starts in Yellow. 

[Rilles]

1 hour ago, Thewritersunion said:

@The Don Only stage Yellow people will solve China. Socialism by its very nature starts in Yellow. 

I would say its more Green, its pretty idealistic, I think the best system will eventually be some mish-mash of everything, not pure socialism. 

[snowyowl]

Biden will have the chance to put his words into action, we will wait and see.  As for Trump, he did play hardball over the trade talks, risking a trade war over his efforts to create a level playing field with the Chinese. He stopped them getting into the 5G network too. 

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