why god is love or conciousness is identical to love

[Raven1998]

what is connection between god and love ? why god is love or conciousness is identical to love?

 

[Leo Gura]

You cannot understand this without some deep awakening.

To understand it IS awakening itself.

What you're asking for is to be told what awakening is while you are still asleep. This is impossible.

There is only one way to know what awakening is, and that's by awakening.

[Raven1998]

how to awaken to love? i had awakening to no self but not the love

[Leo Gura]

In practice, psychedelics are the best way.

Otherwise, thousands of hours of intense meditation. And still no guarantees.

You could do it in 30 minutes with the right psychedelic.

[Raven1998]

thank you leo

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

Yeah... as long as you imagine that's what it takes.

That's correct.

But can you imagine otherwise? If you can't, it would be wise to wriggle within the confines of your current imagination -- like a sperm wriggling towards an egg.

[Hotaka]

@Leo Gura Yeah but Leo there is a lot of Karma and shit to work out in the world and beyond. We can't just go straight to Source without doing the work in the world and all the planes beyond that. This doesn't happen through just psychedelics or meditation, but through also doing normal things, which I am sure you are doing as you are a very self developed person capable of doing many things in your life. I guess this guy needs to do that as well.

I find psychedelics can open the door to things and show you things, like a window or a glimpse, but just for a short while and then the work needs to be done. Because it all comes back to you when you are not tripping anymore. All the Karma, all the shit you have and need to deal with. We are related to that stuff in the manifest. It is like attached to us. Forms. Sometimes they come as if they were divinely provided lessons, which we must respond correctly to or we may not learn the lesson. We must sift through them to get to the purity and love. Meditation yes, work in the world yes. Shifting in and out back and forth between Source and manifestation and then going in between, till we can be in all places at once. I think it is a type of samadhi actually, being half in half out, eyes half closed half open, like Shiva maybe.

[Leo Gura]

The question was "How to awaken to love?"

The answer was given.

Other work is a separate issue.

[PurpleTree]

46 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

In practice, psychedelics are the best way.

Otherwise, thousands of hours of intense meditation. And still no guarantees.

You could do it in 30 minutes with the right psychedelic.

What's the right one for that matter in your opinion?

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

What's the right one for that matter in your opinion?

There are so many. You have to find the one which works best for you.

[electroBeam]

8 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

What's the right one for that matter in your opinion?

all of my sober awakenings were at least 1000x more powerful than any psychedelic awakenings... and I've taken dangerously high doses of psychedelics, way beyond hero dose. Its literally different for everyone. The biggest awakening I had was I pretended to take a psychedelic (I dreamt up an imaginary mushroom in my head) and then infinite love knocked me out for 5 days straight. 

You'd be a fool to blindly believe Leo. It really is different for everyone. I know some outside of this forum who have gotten massive awakenings through lucid dreaming. 

[Leo Gura]

Psychedelics are ineffective for some people. Which is why you have to experiment and test.

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

There are so many. You have to find the one which works best for you.

Are you still plugging something which rhymes on Mooji-G there where the sun doesn't shine?

Have you had good experiences with it after you made your video on it?

I hope this question isn't against the forum guidelines somehow.

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

(I dreamt up an imaginary mushroom in my head) and then infinite love knocked me out for 5 days straight. 

That sounds pretty cool, have you been able to do that/recreate the experience since?

[PurpleTree]

48 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

That sounds pretty cool, have you been able to do that/recreate the experience since?

@electroBeam ?

[electroBeam]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

That sounds pretty cool, have you been able to do that/recreate the experience since?

I'd rather try and help you wake up, rather than answer that question correctly.

Yes I did use that 'technique' to have further awakenings... till I realised that I didn't even need that to have awakenings. That was just an unnecessary middle man.

But also keep in mind that its not an experience, an experience is still dualistic. What that was, was an honest father son talk. Nothing flashy, but rather a lets stop playing around and get honest about what's actually happening here - minus all the awakening bullshit, insight bullshit, listening to teachers bullshit, even the meditation bullshit... because you were above all that all along, and that was all part of the separation. Part of the dance and play. Part of the story. The character of a play doesn't break the 4th wall by meditating. The character of the play breaks the 4th wall at the exact precise time it WANTS to stop playing, and wants to wake up. That's all awakening boils down to. But you're just God playing around, and God wakes up when it wants to. Everything else like meditating and yoga and all this BS is pretending to want to wake up as part of the story. But truly waking up comes from wanting it... or that's how it seems right before an awakening. I'm sure meditation and psychedelics may have a relative impact on how successful an actual awakening ends up being. 

IDK I just feel like what everyone on here is missing... is the WANT part. There is a lack of distinction between pretending to want, and to actually want. And those that just bullshit around here are pretending to want, while those who actually do wake up actually want to wake up. Maybe that helps? Not sure.

Like You are imagining a hell of a lot more then what you think. You're even imagining the idea that waking up takes work... That's all a bullshit story. You're even imagining the idea that some people are spiritually talented while some aren't... that's totally bullshit because only You are here. You're even imagining up the idea that awakening is rare... that's totally bullshit because you're the only one here. Its not rare lol. You're making up the idea that its rare, that it takes hard work, that it takes spiritual talent to make waking up to yourself more fun. All of that is complete BS because there's only 1 thing here who can wake up... and that's you!

To really wake up, you really do need to go beyond absolutely everything, even wise ideas, you need to throw away even wise ideas like the idea that meditation is good. Listening to teachers that are always right. Like you are literally all there is. You need to literally throw away everything hahahaha. Because truth is beyond everything. The entire story. So if you're not willing to throw away even the wise ideas... then you can't wake up. 

Edited November 7, 2020 by electroBeam

[Just Do Nothing]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You cannot understand this without some deep awakening.

To understand it IS awakening itself.

What you're asking for is to be told what awakening is while you are still asleep. This is impossible.

There is only one way to know what awakening is, and that's by awakening.

So true 

[PurpleTree]

22 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

Like You are imagining a hell of a lot more then what you think. You're even imagining the idea that waking up takes work... That's all a bullshit story. You're even imagining the idea that some people are spiritually talented while some aren't... that's totally bullshit because only You are here. You're even imagining up the idea that awakening is rare... that's totally bullshit because you're the only one here. Its not rare lol. You're making up the idea that its rare, that it takes hard work, that it takes spiritual talent to make waking up to yourself more fun. All of that is complete BS because there's only 1 thing here who can wake up... and that's you!

I don't really think that some people are spiritually talented or that awakenings are rare.

But i do think on this level, we still have a brain and we need to train our brain, not our awareness etc. to not always fall back into endless thought loops etc. and that's what imo takes work, to form these brain pathways.

On another level we don't even have a brain etc. but i don't know how useful that is in everyday life.

[Nahm]

3 hours ago, Raven1998 said:

what is connection between god and love ?

Neither exist. 

3 hours ago, Raven1998 said:

why god is love or conciousness is identical to love?

There would have to be two things for them to be identical.