A few thoughts about infinity

[Moksha]

Time, space, and matter are all illusions. Don't be surprised that you can infinitely divide or multiply them

The thing that creates everything is actually nothing.

 

[bennett oppel]

Just now, Moksha said:

Time, space, and matter are all illusions. Don't be surprised that you can infinitely divide or multiply them

The thing that creates everything is actually nothing.

 

It is most certainly not. Nothing creates nothing. A state of nothing cannot create or cause anything because it has no means to do this. why? Because its bloody nothing. Better to start with something that I'll call potential rather than something that is nonexistant. You can create from potential but you can't really create from nothing. People get bogged down with the current fad in science to think that things pop into existence from nothing with no cause but I tend to shy away from that madness.

[Moksha]

The essence of everything is nothing. Do you think Source is a thing?

[bennett oppel]

1 minute ago, Moksha said:

The essence of everything is nothing. Do you think Source is a thing?

Not really, I think that we are just aspects of timeless objects which are objectively real and beyond the scope of concepts such as something and nothing.

[Moksha]

If Source isn't a thing, wouldn't that make it nothing? Just because it isn't a thing doesn't mean it lacks light or essence.

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The entire universe is suspended from me as my necklace of jewels. Arjuna, I am the taste of pure water and the radiance of the sun and moon. I am the sacred word and the sound heard in air, and the courage of human beings. I am the sweet fragrance in the earth and the radiance of fire; I am the life in every creature and the striving of the spiritual aspirant…In those who are strong, I am strength, free from passion and selfish attachment. I am desire itself, if that desire is in harmony with the purpose of life. Bhagavad Gita 7:8-11

Edited November 3, 2020 by Moksha

[bennett oppel]

1 minute ago, Moksha said:

If Source isn't a thing, wouldn't that make it nothing? Just because it isn't a thing doesn't mean it lacks light or essence.

I'll be quite blunt. To my way of thinking the universe is totally flexible in that it can both have multiple origins and multiple endings. There is no one true answer to it. To my mind there is not one source but multiple sources of existence. The universe is basically a timeless mirror that simply reflects back on us what we believe. I have plenty of evidence on this from what I have a) seen and b) experienced. Provided what you believe does not hinder the mirrors perfection than it will reflect what you believe and make it a reality.

[Moksha]

Do you believe the universe is timeless, or that time exists only within the universe? Is it possible Source singularly exists outside of the universe(s) itself(s)? Is it your belief that there are multiple Sources? If dualistic, why?

[bennett oppel]

1 minute ago, Moksha said:

Do you believe the universe is timeless, or that time exists only within the universe? Is it possible Source singularly exists outside of the universe(s) itself(s)? Is it your belief that there are multiple Sources? If dualistic, why?

The universe is just a reflection of current beliefs. I don't really care if the universe is timeless or not because its irrelevant to me. Rather than concentrating on this universe i design my own reality or rather plane of existence as I like to think and the mirror or whatever it is that shows me the images I see has shown me that reality being created. You have to understand that its a perfect mirror. Come up with a belief that makes you happy, You don't need to follow logic but sometimes it helps. All I do is construct the most perfect belief I can and the mirror reflects it back at me. You have to believe that everything is perfect even when its horrific which is quite hard sometimes  

[Moksha]

@bennett oppel And who are You?

[bennett oppel]

2 minutes ago, Moksha said:

@bennett oppel And who are You?

I've constructed a higher identity for myself like a character in a computer game, your higher self is something you can actually have control over if you direct it. This identity is in the reality I've created for myself. I'm careful to separate it from my mundane existence though otherwise madness awaits

[Moksha]

@bennett oppel What if You already are, and "you" are just a character creating a supercharacter?

[bennett oppel]

Just now, Moksha said:

@bennett oppel What if You already are, and "you" are just a character creating a supercharacter?

I treat reality like a role playing game, I think its a much better metaphor than a materialistic belief from a certain perspective. You have to understand that by creating this "super character" the mirror reflects it and it becomes something that is from my perspective because the mirror reflects it as something that always was.

[Moksha]

2 minutes ago, bennett oppel said:

I treat reality like a role playing game, I think its a much better metaphor than a materialistic belief from a certain perspective. You have to understand that by creating this "super character" the mirror reflects it and it becomes something that is from my perspective because the mirror reflects it as something that always was.

Who created the character that is creating the super character?

[bennett oppel]

4 minutes ago, Moksha said:

Who created the character that is creating the super character?

In a sense that character has always been me, My mundane identity is really just remembering that I've always been that character Lots of people suffer from a sort of amnesia as to who they really are. My life sometimes seems more like a work of fiction these days as a result.

[Moksha]

1 minute ago, bennett oppel said:

In a sense that character has always been me, My mundane identity is really just remembering that I've always been that character Lots of people suffer from a sort of amnesia as to who they really are. My life sometimes seems more like a work of fiction these days as a result.

You are more than a character  That realization is the beginning of the end of suffering.

[bennett oppel]

1 minute ago, Moksha said:

You are more than a character  That realization is the beginning of the end of suffering.

I'm just someone who knows who he is, that's all I need to be

[Moksha]

15 hours ago, bennett oppel said:

I'm just someone who knows who he is, that's all I need to be

Yes  What is the source of your self-knowledge?

We've been splashing around in the ocean of infinity, and I spotted a pearl:

As for your letters turning into lines good luck pronouncing them.

The deeper you dive into infinity, the less pronounceable it becomes.

Dive into time, and you are infinitely immersed in moments.

Dive into space, and you sail into it forever.

Dive into matter, and you will never reach the bottom.

Infinity is incomprehensible. We can point to it, but we cannot grasp it. The more we try to understand it, the more elusive it becomes. It is futile and meaningless. It is the road to insanity. Why even try to understand reality with the conceptual mind?

We can experience it instead. When you open your spiritual eyes, everything suddenly makes sense. You realize that you are it.