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Are Stage Blue Enlightened people (monks and the like) deeply enlightened?

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8 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Vision You can 'Wake Up' but you still gotta 'Grow up'

and the waking up, changes and is nuanced depending on your level of 'growing up' and 'cleaning up' and becoming more integral.

@Thought Art Have I spotted another Ken Wilber reader? I got through some of the religion of tomorrow 


Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.

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10 hours ago, fridjonk said:

 

10 hours ago, fridjonk said:

It's like, you are, right? You are. I am. That is true.

No. I can't say that's true because what even is?


If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey

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@Leo Gura
 

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Yes

You are conflating two different things.

Then what would give a Stage Blue Enlightened person motive to move up the stages/develop their consciousness? 

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22 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You are conflating two different things.

Yes, they are different.

 

But in one way or another, they do have some relation - the higher up the spiral you are, the smaller your ego gets, the more likely you are to be enlightened and/or have mystical experiences. 

 

How would they have the deepest Truth with ideologies and dogma in place? 

From 65 Core Principles of Living The Good Life - 1. no ideology and no dogma of any kind.

 

Would it be possible for a stage blue enlightened person to be as enlightened as a stage turquoise (deeply) enlightened person? 

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10 hours ago, Gesundheit said:

No. I can't say that's true because what even is?

Look at your hand for an hour and you'll realize what is. 

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4 minutes ago, fridjonk said:

Look at your hand for an hour and you'll realize what is. 

A hand? 

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@fridjonk Take of the meds asap man. 

More confused with that then with @DrewNowshalloween picture. Hard to decide actually. 

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Why is the hand the centre of attention? Why not make it your genitals.

FYI this technique really boosts your sexual self esteem.

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Just now, electroBeam said:

Why is the hand the centre of attention? Why not make it your genitals.

We heard enough of you about that. Don't we? 

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3 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

Why is the hand the centre of attention? Why not make it your genitals.

 

I second that. 

However, I won't post a gif of that. ?

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2 minutes ago, fridjonk said:

I second that. 

However, I won't post a gif of that. ?

You don’t have to just invite that guy from this forum that can grow stuff at will. 

 

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1 hour ago, fridjonk said:

Look at your hand for an hour and you'll realize what is. 

Yeah but what does that even mean? It could be a simulation.


If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey

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2 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

Yeah but what does that even mean? It could be a simulation.

There's no reason to speculate before trying it, that's just mental masturbation. 

The direct experience makes you directly aware of the experience of knowing truth.

But first, you must not-know to know. That doesn't mean to be so sceptical that you're closing your mind, circle jerkin about it. 

It does nothing to speculate beforehand, no pun intended. ;)

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4 minutes ago, fridjonk said:

There's no reason to speculate before trying it, that's just mental masturbation. 

The direct experience makes you directly aware of the experience of knowing truth.

But first, you must not-know to know. That doesn't mean to be so sceptical that you're closing your mind, circle jerkin about it. 

It does nothing to speculate beforehand, no pun intended. ;)

Now that's confusion No3 for today. I am out. Calling it off, this forum is not healthy for me. 

I am just not smart enough that's the problem. 

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59 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

Yeah but what does that even mean? It could be a simulation.

No it couldn't.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey

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7 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

Go sit and look at your hand. It is God.


You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity.

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1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Go sit and look at your hand. It is God.

Before I had my God realization, I dreamed that the hand of God appeared in my room. It was made of energy but looked like a human hand. At that time, I thought that your videos influenced me (and I guess this is the explanation) but still, I've found this pretty interesting to experience. God was waving hand at me and then a few days later, I realized that "what the hell, I am God". I know it sounds weird but I wonder how far can this go.

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