Zazen Methods

[123456789]

How to know when to switch from one Zazen meditation method to another? 

Edited August 31, 2016 by mr lenny

[Guivs]

@mr lenny Which methods are you referring to ? 

Zazen is every moment spent with right view and understanding, I'd say. 

 

[123456789]

I'm referring to Breath counting, breath following and silent Illumination. I'm currently using the one that recommended for newbies,  breath counting.

[Guivs]

Ah okay  Well, I would advise you,  just following the breath with no artificial effort. 

Have no sense of an "I" watching the breath, become the breath and relax.

The most important point is : do not try to get anywhere with the meditation, because this will reinforce a sense of self as the meditator.  

[123456789]

@Guivs

26 minutes ago, Guivs said:

Ah okay  Well, I would advise you,  just following the breath with no artificial effort. 

Have no sense of an "I" watching the breath, become the breath and relax.

The most important point is : do not try to get anywhere with the meditation, because this will reinforce a sense of self as the meditator.  

Seems like you misunderstood my question. Its not how to meditate,  but How to know when to switch from one Zazen technique to another.

[Guivs]

Actually I chose to misunderstand your question ahaha, please forgive me  

Because the method is not that much of a deal if it's accompanied with right view in my understanding. 

But a more conventional answer would be : if you can do it for a 1-2 minutes without losing the count, you can start following the breath. Actually, counting the breath is a way for your mind to be stilled a little if it is running all over the place. An alternative would be to start each session of meditation by counting the breath, and when you feel the mind is calmer, start following the breath.

 

Experience and see what suits you best  

[123456789]

Just now, Guivs said:

Actually I chose to misunderstand your question ahaha, please forgive me  

Because the method is not that much of a deal if it's accompanied with right view in my understanding. 

But a more conventional answer would be : if you can do it for a 1-2 minutes without losing the count, you can start following the breath. Actually, counting the breath is a way for your mind to be stilled a little if it is running all over the place. An alternative would be to start each session of meditation by counting the breath, and when you feel the mind is calmer, start following the breath.

 

Experience and see what suits you best  

Hahaha, well thanks anyways.