Is there any Proof that "I am a God"?

[Someone here]

10 hours ago, Muhammad Jawad said:

GOD is the creator and substance of everything. He is eternal & infinite. Who can never be a victim of any kind of suffering?

@Muhammad Jawad

If God is the substance of everything.. How can he not be a victim of suffering? 

10 hours ago, Muhammad Jawad said:

But Why? Why he would like to put himself into suffering

I don't like this approach. Don't Anthropomorphise God and then ask questions about it as if "he" is a human that should have a "why" for what "he" does.

What is GOD? You underestimate the significance of this question. 

[from chaos into self]

21 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Muhammad Jawad

If God is the substance of everything.. How can he not be a victim of suffering? 

I don't like this approach. Don't Anthropomorphise God and then ask questions about it as if "he" is a human that should have a "why" for what "he" does.

What is GOD? You underestimate the significance of this question. 

Isn’t god exactly that which becomes human? It seems he would anthropomorphize quite well

[An young being]

On 01/11/2020 at 11:13 AM, Muhammad Jawad said:

The world's top Enlightened Masters were also bound to live this limited life and experience environmental circumstances. Even they had no control over anything.

Even God has no control over everything

What if I am just an observer of my experiences but I am not God.

Thousands of Civilisations came to this world and they got deluded themselves into false gods. Some Civilisations Accepted Sun as their God. Some accepted Stones as their God. Some accepted few humans as their God. And their many other examples.

Now here we are who says I am God. We have accepted ourselves, God. What if we are one of those civilizations who were always on the wrong path, Who misunderstood The God.

How can we prove that I am God? What kind of God am I who is still bound under some laws which I can't overcome even after knowing, understanding, and experiencing that I am not this body.

OK, I accept that possibility that I am not this body, I am not my experiences which helps me a lot to live this life with less suffering. But How & Why can I say that I am God?

What if God is bigger than all of this without any limitations?

Waiting for others Feedback.

Thanks

It's how you define God.

If God is just a belief, then it becomes another story.

If God is an experience closer to how you feel when you pray but to an infinite unexplainable level, then You are God.

No matter to whom you pray, you experience the same feelings. Where is God then?

[Someone here]

@from chaos into self are you conscious  of that or do you just Believe it?..

OP is being very honest that his experience as a human that is vulnerable to suffering is not quite God-like. If God is imagining himself to be a human.. That means right now you are not God. You are just human. God has seperated himself from himself to experience what it's like to pray to himself but without knowing that he is praying to himself. Ultimately yes you are God. But most likely you are not conscious of that right now. Which is why you shouldn't parrot it. 

Edited November 2, 2020 by Someone here

[How to be wise]

@Muhammad Jawad There is a difference between the concept of ‘I am God’ and the actual truth. This may surprise you, but they are nothing alike. Completely different. Unless you’ve experienced it, the label ‘I am God’ will only delude you. It’s best to get rid of all labels. Once you’re empty of concepts, you will experience it.

[from chaos into self]

@Someone here  what is god then? Since this thread is about god, it seems it needs clarification.

Edited November 2, 2020 by from chaos into self

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, from chaos into self said:

@Someone here  what is god then? Since this thread is about god, it seems it needs clarification.

It can't be said or defined. You can't encapsulate the infinite and explain it away with a bunch of words like "everything".. "nothing" .. "eternal".. "infinite". These are yet more attributes. The essence of God (being) itself is a total mystery (mystical) and it will remain like that. Forever. 

You underestimate that God is INFINITE. Sit down and contemplate what INFINITE means untill it breaks your mind.  Infinity allows you to be God and not God simultaneously. This is not a contradiction. That's exactly right. You are God and not God at the same time. 

 

[from chaos into self]

13 minutes ago, Someone here said:

It can't be said or defined. You can't encapsulate the infinite and explain it away with a bunch of words like "everything".. "nothing" .. "eternal".. "infinite". These are yet more attributes. The essence of God (being) itself is a total mystery (mystical) and it will remain like that. Forever. 

You underestimate that God is INFINITE. Sit down and contemplate what INFINITE means untill it breaks your mind.  Infinity allows you to be God and not God simultaneously. This is not a contradiction. That's exactly right. You are God and not God at the same time. 

 

So we can answer op’s question by saying he is not god, since no belief captures god’s essence

Edited November 2, 2020 by from chaos into self

[bejapuskas]

Is there any proof that you are human?

[Someone here]

@from chaos into self I am that I am.  This is about as clear as it gets ?

[from chaos into self]

@bejapuskas There is a lot more proof that I’m human than there is proof that I’m god. Even so, it’s just a belief either way. 
 

@Someone here I am that I am. 

[ajai]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Don't Anthropomorphise God and then ask questions about it as if "he" is a human that should have a "why" for what "he" does.

Nice one, brodie.

@Muhammad Jawad Just don't be mistaken by your Self-Identity also known in some circles as Ego(lol),

(Generally Speaking) the whole idea of Spirituality is to get out of this psychological plus physiological paradigm. So just don't go by this idea that GOD is some HUMAN [as this is quite evident from your diction like using "HE"  for god or attributing any humane properties to GOD],

let's look at it this way, if there's GOD, it's just not for "you" and "me" the EGO, right? what about other things that you see around, your society or environment, everything, every single thing and not only on this planet, we are talking about every possible damn thing that is existential be it our UNIVERSE or any other UNIVERSE/ES so to say we call it UNIVERSE, see? all things/entities that you could possibly imagine and not imagine too, that's the kind a shit we are dealing with here when we are saying GOD right, and you are part of this big Cosmic dance, How? Because  everything is just a form of all encompassing ever Eternal "Consciousness" as we term it, and that's what we are calling GOD.

What is it that I call dance? The INTERPLAY, interplay of what? The Union and Divison, The Waxing and Waning, which is the Cosmic accord as such, as it is.

Our experiences don't mean shit on a large META cosmic level.They are miniscule in contrast to the eternal TRUTH. They just mean to you, your Self- Identity, till you are just YOU.

As I aforementioned it's good to discuss but don't go down into this Rabbit Hole of just discuss or question for the sake of it, we gotta do it for the sake of TRUTH and for the sake of understanding/knowing. So we gotta do the work, work of real substance is what I mean, profound work plus practices and not just talk, we gotta walk too. I repeat READ.READ.READ. Periodt.

Let's grow together mahnnn, that's why we are here, ???️❣️✨

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

You are God and not God at the same time. 

Couldn't agree more bruh, ??

[ajai]

@Muhammad Jawad Also there's no need to be confused as everyone has some sort of confusion at some point, when we can't comprehend things better due to lack of Understanding, things sometimes seem unintelligible but it's alright, whenever there's confusion before questioning others or any Outside thing, first and foremost thing is to self-reflect and doubt and question your current Understanding (which could be flawed in some way), it could be about any subject matter regardless, we might sometimes presume things to be in a certain way but when we realize it's Not..., EGO takes a hard hit, and that's the only right time to consolidate and pacify your EGO to mature more n more (it's never a Static thing), because that's the way it'll DISSOLVE, now DISSOLVE  doesn't have to mean completely vanish your EGO, it means to dissolve the Current CONSTRUCT of EGO and build a more Integrated more Unitive one, it's your identity afterall, hence it's your choice either you make it rigid/stubborn or as much flexible as you want. You have to learn how to use it wisely, because EGO u see, the Self Identity is there for a reason, it all about time and wisdom. I am learning to do it on daily basis, you are invited too, so start seeing confusion as opportunity instead of some negative thing.

watch this awesome video by Osho, which is rather funny too in my opinion, haha!!

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Edited November 2, 2020 by ajai

[SoonHei]

Is there any Proof that "I am a God"?

 

the proof is sort of like realizing it for yourself, and beyond all doubts. 

only YOU and YOU ALONE can confirm and come to see it, nobody else!

 

take the picture below. it is the famous rabbit and the duck illusion picture. let's say if you were seeing this for the first time and could only see the duck and not the rabbit. and someone else told you, that no, it's not a duck, it's a rabbit! only you can come to see directly with your own eyes that is a rabbit and a duck. you can flip between each view. nobody can see it for you or show you. YOU have to see it for yourself. but the moment you do see it! it's right there! right before your eyes. direct! no proof needed. why? because you are seeing it right there infront of your eyes!

 

just as you do not need any proof to see that this is the letter G   ------------------- > G

same way, the self-realization/god-realization is direct, beyond any needs of proof. if you find yourself seeking and looking for proofs, that's the mind trying to eat something it cannot take a bite out of.

 

beyond proof. directly known.

 

 

[ajai]

5 minutes ago, SoonHei said:

 

Wooo, the duck-rabbit paradox , ?

[abrakamowse]

1 minute ago, ajai said:

Wooo, the duck-rabbit paradox , ?

I didn't see the rabbit the first time, now that you mentioned it I can see it...

[ajai]

@abrakamowse  Hahahaha!! Okay, Mah bad! ??

Edited November 2, 2020 by ajai

[SoonHei]

11 minutes ago, ajai said:

Wooo, the duck-rabbit paradox , ?

similar to the man-god paradox

[abrakamowse]

1 hour ago, ajai said:

@abrakamowse  Hahahaha!! Okay, Mah bad! ??

You enlightened me Lol ? 

[bennett oppel]

If you can visualaize for example the whole universe or per say an infinite object then you would have proof that your an infinite object. It can be done with practice.