Green vs Blue leftists

[Lews Therin]

I live in Brazil, here we are experiencing a great divide in politics, we have a ressurgent far right and we have a progressive left that are at each other's throats.

Last election we had something around 30% of votes going to the main progressive left candidate and some 15% to other leftist candidates ( who were also with a very progressive program).

The thing is, i'm pretty sure are really far from having that much green, actually, i would say we probably don't have much green at all in our society.

I've previously seen a supposed spiral dynamics graphic of Brasil, i don't think it has much research behind it, but it makes some sense ( our country is very divided between advanced big cities like são paulo and other areas wich are very backwards) here it is:

What makes it more interesting is how so many places changed from voting for the workers party to voting for bolsonaro, wich makes me think that our left, at least the greatest part of it, is actually blue, including Lula himself, who was probably some sort of Blue/orange with some small shades of green and red.

So, how do i tell appart a Blue progressist from a Green one? considering both will tend to see Bolsonaro as a monster? 

I talk about Brazil here cause it is my country, but feel free to use examples from yours.

[Lews Therin]

BTW:

Azul = Blue

Laranja = Orange

Verde = Green

Amarelo = Yellow

[Fran11]

22 minutes ago, Lews Therin said:

What makes it more interesting is how so many places changed from voting for the workers party to voting for bolsonaro,

What do you think it's their motivation? 

Hello from Argentina BTW 

[Lews Therin]

27 minutes ago, Fran11 said:

What do you think it's their motivation? 

Hello from Argentina BTW 

The people who changed their vote?

I think the workers party started adopting many Green agendas ( Haddad, in my opinion, was ORANGE/green or something like that) so their Blue electors started reacting negatively to it.

The downturn of the economy probably made people regress a little into a more radical form of Blue as well.

What do you think?

BTW, how's you country doing? i always check the news about argentina, but i never know how much i can trust it.

[Fran11]

11 minutes ago, Lews Therin said:

The people who changed their vote?

I think the workers party started adopting many Green agendas ( Haddad, in my opinion, was ORANGE/green or something like that) so their Blue electors started reacting negatively to it.

The downturn of the economy probably made people regress a little into a more radical form of Blue as well.

What do you think?

I see. I'm not into the details of Brazil's politics, but the downturn of the economy must have definetly been an important factor.

14 minutes ago, Lews Therin said:

BTW, how's you country doing? i always check the news about argentina, but i never know how much i can trust it.

The economy has been badly damaged by the managing of the COVID situation (we're around 40% povery now), and still we've just reached the count of 30.000 deaths so it wasn't very effective for protecting our health either.

[ArchangelG]

5 hours ago, Lews Therin said:

What makes it more interesting is how so many places changed from voting for the workers party to voting for bolsonaro, wich makes me think that our left, at least the greatest part of it, is actually blue, including Lula himself, who was probably some sort of Blue/orange with some small shades of green and red.

So, how do i tell appart a Blue progressist from a Green one? considering both will tend to see Bolsonaro as a monster? 

I've seen alot of that in sweden as well, where the workers have shifted from the labor party to the nationalist party. And upper middle class is new left. 

Social justice warriors, lgtbq, enviromentalists etc. are all from the upper middle class.

The political map is being redrawn in afundamental way. Very confusing.