Loss

Please help. I'm a loser.

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@Loss You have a lot of great advice here, my thought was that colleges have career counselors that are there to help students pick appropriate classes/degrees to suit their interests. Perhaps make an appt to discuss your goals?


“You don’t have problems; you are the problem.”

– Swami Chinmayananda

Namaste ? ?

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@Keyhole Good joke :) (in relation to me using journal entries - please cite just one if you're serious haha of which I doubt - I improvise my stories all on the fly, and its for fun I hope it encourages others to explore their imagination here as well).

As for having an opinion on actual abuse by other forum members, I have no interest expending energy there beyond understanding the lower regions of the brain and setting boundaries where I need to. 

 

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@Leo Gura @Natasha et. al this is stalking behaviour by Keyhole. No need to to anything about it now but I've already informed them that they've been blocked. Stories are improvisational and just for fun, no idea what Keyhole is talking about and I'm certain Keyhole has zero chance at confirming their claims, if need be please press them to do so. I don't want any part of it though this is a clear waste of my time and your time by Keyhole, turning something I'm doing just out of fun into something that's all about them even though I've never really even noticed Keyhole on the forum let alone ever talk to them. 

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This (what you're demonstrating @Keyhole) is a pattern in human behaviour that I didn't realise is much more widespread.

Keyhole its okay, I'm not angry at you.

I mean, its annoying of course but I understand. Feel free to express what you wish.

I assure you though, I have no interest nor have ever had any interest in your journal entries.

@Leo Gura @Natasha if you could please confirm Keyhole on these claims regarding gaslighting of particular persons it would be appreciated so that we can clear this up right away (I've never gaslighted anyone here, I'm straight forward and honest and seek communication as candidly and authentically as possible), and of course, talking to Keyhole about claims of getting my improvisational inspiration from reading their entries which to this date I still have not read.

Otherwise I have no doubt you'll eventually get bored and move onto the next person Keyhole. In saying that mods, I would have thought that regulating the kind of behaviour Keyhole is demonstrating would have been the thing to do, at the very least private messaging them to talk with them about their experiences so that they're not harassing commenters on the forum.

Again, I'm not angry at you Keyhole. But it is a problem. It's not healthy for you. And its not healthy for the forum. I can take it though perfectly fine.

I'll probably get bored feeding your attention seeking as well. And that isn't to say attention seeking is bad, we all need attention of course, but the healthy thing to do is to understand our own needs and figure out how we can get those needs met in a healthy way rather than ignoring them say, and having that turning into projection in your interactions with others.

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Okay @Keyhole let's say that what you're saying is true, and I'll entertain that possibility, can you demonstrate any evidence to support your claims? That way we can check story with reality and see how much they pair. That will help your process here.

I'll approach this as openly as possible, but please if you're not willing to demonstrate said evidence what is your purpose here exactly other than to do what you claim, gaslight via what seems like projection. My evidence so far speaks for itself, its not really projection if you have evidence that you could share though is it?

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@Origins @Keyhole

Having fun over there? Leave some sweet messages for me too please.


If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey

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@Gesundheit Zero fun other than in my mind. I'm giving @Keyhole a chance though, let's see how they process this situation as openly as possible, which means bringing all the evidence to light rather than making claim after claim which means nothing by itself. They seem to implicitly claim openness, so let's see just how open they really are.

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@Origins

Different tactics:

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If you have no confidence in yourself, you are twice defeated in the race of life. But with confidence you have won, even before you start.” -- Marcus Garvey

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@Gesundheit nah. This situation doesn't deserve my humour. This will be my last message as a response to @ now. I'll only be making comments to threads, I'll no longer be able to receive notifications so I'll have no idea what others are saying about my posts good or bad haha.

There's people of various kinds on this forum with very little ability to personally regulate who you want to talk to and you don't want to talk to. 

In real life I'd have a zero tolerance policy for people exhibiting the behaviour that Keyhole is so my only way of regulating that because I can't completely block them from seeing what content I produce and so I can avoid seeing their messages I'll just remove all notifications altogether outside of private messages.

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@Loss Yeah great job man, listen the best thing that you did was realize this at 30 and not in your later years. I'll save you with the generic advice you've probably heard before and give you more personal advice.

Don't join any far right or left extremist political groups, gangs, Incel, Redpill or any other cult like organization, this will create an echo-chamber on your deepest insecurities and bring you to a point of no return, if your in any right now set a goal to rid yourself from them.

Journal down all crucial decisions or events that led you to the person you are now. (Mentality, levels of consciousness, actions, ect.) Surrender all feelings of pain, guilt, regret and let it come out. Then for each reason, rack up your mind to re-define each event as a blessing in disguise, (most of the time suffering leads to the most purest form of growth so don't half-ass or skip this step I promise you'll find something insightful.)

Abandon complex spirituality and concepts, for now don't look too much into it. From what I can tell most people on this forum study spirituality as a form of bypassing to prevent learning survival skills, which always bites them in the ass. Instead focus on developing a strong mediation routine, (don't meditate to get "enlightened" but to say grounded and find inner peace)

Stop comparing yourself to other people or what you could've been, recognize this is a fabrication of your own mind and it's something you don't have direct experience with. Measure yourself only on the goals you set for yourself and the ones you manage to complete. If you find you can't complete any start of small and continue to build up your goals as you develop confidence in yourself to complete them. This is what develops true confidence

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bando said:

Stop comparing yourself to other people or what you could've been, recognize this is a fabrication of your own mind and it's something you don't have direct experience with. Measure yourself only on the goals you set for yourself and the ones you manage to complete. If you find you can't complete any start of small and continue to build up your goals as you develop confidence in yourself to complete them. This is what develops true confidence.

Yes. All of this. Live your life. Don’t worry about the lives of others or what you think your life ought to be now if things “worked out better”. Take small steps now to make your life better now.

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12 hours ago, Bando said:

@Loss Yeah great job man, listen the best thing that you did was realize this at 30 and not in your later years. I'll save you with the generic advice you've probably heard before and give you more personal advice.

Don't join any far right or left extremist political groups, gangs, Incel, Redpill or any other cult like organization, this will create an echo-chamber on your deepest insecurities and bring you to a point of no return, if your in any right now set a goal to rid yourself from them.

Journal down all crucial decisions or events that led you to the person you are now. (Mentality, levels of consciousness, actions, ect.) Surrender all feelings of pain, guilt, regret and let it come out. Then for each reason, rack up your mind to re-define each event as a blessing in disguise, (most of the time suffering leads to the most purest form of growth so don't half-ass or skip this step I promise you'll find something insightful.)

Abandon complex spirituality and concepts, for now don't look too much into it. From what I can tell most people on this forum study spirituality as a form of bypassing to prevent learning survival skills, which always bites them in the ass. Instead focus on developing a strong mediation routine, (don't meditate to get "enlightened" but to say grounded and find inner peace)

Stop comparing yourself to other people or what you could've been, recognize this is a fabrication of your own mind and it's something you don't have direct experience with. Measure yourself only on the goals you set for yourself and the ones you manage to complete. If you find you can't complete any start of small and continue to build up your goals as you develop confidence in yourself to complete them. This is what develops true confidence

 

 

These are great advices and I will be honest right now. In the state of vulnerability and looking for advice and answers I came across redpill stuff. The blackpill is just pathetic to me. What's wrong with the redpill ideas? Could you please explain? It kind of reassured my views of relationships with women since I had from high school, but again I recognize it might be just an illusion. I came to this forum, because It seems kind of neutral, and I watched a lot Leo's youtube.

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On 31/10/2020 at 1:06 AM, Willie said:

Quickest thing you can do is apply at restaurants and grocery stores. The stereotypical bullshit jobs that kids get in high school that “build character” because there’s no enjoyment in the daily toil. They’re always looking to hire. If you’re living with your folks, you can still save up money on that low wage. For your health, look only for places in comfortable walking/biking distance and never drive to or from work. Also avoid the food at any restaurant you apply to unless it’s menu is specifically designed to be healthy.

 

If you can afford to be patient, don’t apply to those jobs. Aim higher.

I actually got hired 2 days ago (I'm waiting for the contract) as remote customer service assistant for 10 quid per hour. I'm happy with that, I must say. See, the problem is I had like 20 bullshit jobs in the last 10 years and I wasn't hired longer than 6 months, I was just quitting. I want to overcome this, but I feel like I don't have a tools.

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2 hours ago, Loss said:

I actually got hired 2 days ago (I'm waiting for the contract) as remote customer service assistant for 10 quid per hour. I'm happy with that, I must say. See, the problem is I had like 20 bullshit jobs in the last 10 years and I wasn't hired longer than 6 months, I was just quitting. I want to overcome this, but I feel like I don't have a tools.

Nice! I hope it goes well!

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7 hours ago, Loss said:

These are great advices and I will be honest right now. In the state of vulnerability and looking for advice and answers I came across redpill stuff. The blackpill is just pathetic to me. What's wrong with the redpill ideas? Could you please explain? It kind of reassured my views of relationships with women since I had from high school, but again I recognize it might be just an illusion. I came to this forum, because It seems kind of neutral, and I watched a lot Leo's youtube.

@Loss I get what you mean, Redpill can serve as a good outlet if you've been naive in how the world works and can actually force you to improve yourself but its meant to be outgrown. Ive talked to people who stumbled upon redpill ideology and man do they stick out like a sore thumb. Their views on women are selfish and borderline misogynistic. They give off a weird, bitter vibe and aren't really fun to be around. 

Redpill does have some good ideas that points out toxic elements of female nature but once you understand that stuff just move on to higher quality material. If you fix your biggest insecurities you realize girls are human too and can choose to do what they want, just like how you can choose to do what you want. Most women arnt as bad as redpill ideology makes them out to be.

Basically Redpill is like a prison for your mind, if you don't outgrow it and move on it will creep into other areas of your life and make you worse off as a man.

 

 

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@Keyhole  What are you talking about? ALL I see in this thread is @Origins  giving great advice.

You need to provide evidence when you accuse someone like that.

 

On 10/30/2020 at 4:07 PM, Keyhole said:

You seem to me to be another very wordy fool

insults, name calling? Really?

 

On 10/30/2020 at 4:07 PM, Keyhole said:

try to change another person's paradigm

No one can change another person's paradigm IMO. People can point at things. 'You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink'

 

On 10/30/2020 at 10:11 PM, Origins said:

no idea what Keyhole is talking about

I have no idea neither.

 

On 10/31/2020 at 1:27 AM, Keyhole said:

The very fact that none of the moderators here are doing anything is because

no one has any idea what you are talking about because you are not providing a shred of evidence.

 

On 10/30/2020 at 10:11 PM, Origins said:

this is a clear waste of my time and your time by Keyhole

Not my time. I had a blast reading this thread while on my McD's shift.

 

On 10/31/2020 at 2:11 AM, Keyhole said:

There are enough members here with such a short post count that you've had to show that you are a problematic person

What???????

 

On 10/31/2020 at 2:17 AM, Origins said:

Notice how you're actually the one gaslighting me the whole way through here? Do you see that?

I do see it. Honestly I kinda feel gaslighted by @Keyhole  in this thread.

 

 

Arc

 

 

 

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On 1.11.2020 at 11:14 PM, Bando said:

@Loss I get what you mean, Redpill can serve as a good outlet if you've been naive in how the world works and can actually force you to improve yourself but its meant to be outgrown. Ive talked to people who stumbled upon redpill ideology and man do they stick out like a sore thumb. Their views on women are selfish and borderline misogynistic. They give off a weird, bitter vibe and aren't really fun to be around. 

Redpill does have some good ideas that points out toxic elements of female nature but once you understand that stuff just move on to higher quality material. If you fix your biggest insecurities you realize girls are human too and can choose to do what they want, just like how you can choose to do what you want. Most women arnt as bad as redpill ideology makes them out to be.

Basically Redpill is like a prison for your mind, if you don't outgrow it and move on it will creep into other areas of your life and make you worse off as a man.

 

 

Well, I agree actually!

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I used to feel like I couldn't keep up with anything I started too. That was brutal on my self-esteem. Stepping out of my comfort zone was key. Did a 15 days retreat. No giving up. That really changed me. It was so damn hard. But I stuck till the very end. Also, traveled to a very different culture, with only myself to resort. Become a pescatarian, no cheating. Built a meditation practice. Always honor it above all. Become tidier. Etc etc. 

What I've learned from all of this, is that self-esteem is greatly created by how much you take yourself and your word seriously. It's important to always always honor the promises you make to yourself. Start small, be realistic and kind to yourself. 

There's great potential in you. I can see it. You just have to grab the bull by the horns.

Best wishes to you and good luck with your new job!
Warm regards 

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