Deep questions

[Mvrs]

When I am away from my fiancé she doesn’t exist except for in my imagination... when I am away from her I don’t exist except for in her imagination. Is this what is occurring Rn or is it just me  in the moment ? 

[electroBeam]

3 minutes ago, Mvrs said:

when I am away from her I don’t exist except for in her imagination. 

Whose the one imagining that?

EDIT: actually on 2nd thought, whose the one imagining this:

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When I am away from my fiancé she doesn’t exist except for in my imagination... when I am away from her I don’t exist except for in her imagination. Is this what is occurring Rn or is it just me  in the moment ? 

 

Edited October 27, 2020 by electroBeam

[The0Self]

9 minutes ago, Mvrs said:

When I am away from my fiancé she doesn’t exist except for in my imagination... when I am away from her I don’t exist except for in her imagination. Is this what is occurring Rn or is it just me  in the moment ? 

Close. What you left out is the question about whether she exists only in your imagination while you're interacting with her.

[RendHeaven]

I'm assuming you saw this? Watch it again if you need to.

You're trying to argue and wrap your head around it.

Watch out. What is that?

...

What should you do instead, if you actually want to understand?

[The0Self]

Actuality is appearance as it is without meaning or purpose (or anything at all) behind it or beyond it.

Edited October 27, 2020 by The0Self

[AlphaAbundance]

What are some good words for the distinctions of 

• Actuality vs. Thought/Imagination
• Being Mindful, Aware of actuality, the actuality of thought/imagination vs. Being sucked into the content of thought/imagination

So what goes into

• Actuality Vs. ____________
• ____________ Vs. ______________

Like clear, one-worded (ideally), representative, best distinction for each side of the vs.

• Also, is thought/imagination actuality when your dealing with the direct actuality (like mental feel, mental see) of the sensation rather than its contents? Or is only the "non-mental" part of experience, actuality?

Edited October 27, 2020 by AlphaAbundance

[r0ckyreed]

3 hours ago, Mvrs said:

when I am away from her I don’t exist except for in her imagination.

You are imagining the I that you think exists and you are imagining her imagination of your imagination of you not being there.

Notice that you are never away. Actuality is always here. There are no minds in Direct Experience. Minds are imagination.

[Mvrs]

3 hours ago, The0Self said:

Close. What you left out is the question about whether she exists only in your imagination while you're interacting with her.

That’s what my question implies 

[Mvrs]

48 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

You are imagining the I that you think exists and you are imagining her imagination of your imagination of you not being there.

Notice that you are never away. Actuality is always here. There are no minds in Direct Experience. Minds are imagination.

So pretty much she doesn’t exist in the same way that I don’t exist which means we both do exist to ourselves in the same way but it’s all imaginary in the structure . It’s not solipsism, I mean In an absolute sense it is butttt Idek lmao 

[RendHeaven]

21 minutes ago, Mvrs said:

So pretty much she doesn’t exist in the same way that I don’t exist which means we both do exist to ourselves in the same way but it’s all imaginary in the structure . It’s not solipsism, I mean In an absolute sense it is butttt Idek lmao 

No. All concepts.

What is Actual?

[r0ckyreed]

4 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

I'm assuming you saw this? Watch it again if you need to.

You're trying to argue and wrap your head around it.

Watch out. What is that?

...

What should you do instead, if you actually want to understand?

This is correct. Follow this advice. Your getting too lost in concept.

 

1 hour ago, Mvrs said:

So pretty much she doesn’t exist in the same way that I don’t exist which means we both do exist to ourselves in the same way but it’s all imaginary in the structure . It’s not solipsism, I mean In an absolute sense it is butttt Idek lmao 

Notice that you and she are concepts and this is the duality you are creating. Notice that all there is, is Consciousness. Any words, concepts, ideas about Consciousness take place within Consciousness. Therefore, you can never define Consciousness because it is beyond words. Trying to rationalize and conceptually understand Consciousness will not get you that understanding. Rationality and any mind stuff you are thinking is ego. When you can just BE with What Is, that is Actuality.

[Nahm]

In love In Love.