What does Leo have to say about the paranormal?

[Michal__]

Just now, SirVladimir said:

What humanity calls paranormal is, in other words, "Oh, shit, this has yet to grow natural for me." Astral projection is very real, and I have been slowly peeking my head into occultism too. If you want a more scientific introduction into the matter, I recommend Dean Radin's Real Magic.

I recommend The Kybalion for starters, since it can kinda bind your knowledge onto the higher non-occult teachings.

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Michal__ said:

Maybe it's both chicken & the egg.

maybe it's a turkey

and birds used to be dinosaurs 

Edited October 25, 2020 by PurpleTree

[Leo Gura]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

maybe it's a turkey

Maybe it's YOU.

[Michal__]

3 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

maybe it's a turkey

and birds used to be dinosaurs 

You are missing the point. I am talking about dependent origination.

Edited October 25, 2020 by Michal__

[Preety_India]

11 minutes ago, Marinador said:

@Preety_India Are you sure? Have you proved it? Can you prove it? Who proves?, If you see Shin Chan in TV it doesn't want to say that Shin Chan exists?

If I were in Las Vegas right now I'd have touched Leo and proved that he exists in real 

C'mon now, can't argue that he is real. 

 

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Maybe it's YOU.

as i said imo there are levels to this on one level it's me for sure on another level it's a chicken and on one level it's a tryceratops

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, Michal__ said:

You are missing the point.

maybe you're missing the point

[Michal__]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

maybe you're missing the point

7 minutes ago, SirVladimir said:

PHONE BUG

Read about dependent origination.

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

If I were in Las Vegas right now I'd have touched Leo and proved that he exists in real 

C'mon now, can't argue that he is real.

Back in the 1800's an Irish philosopher, Bishop Berkeley (after whom was named UC Berkeley) argued that all physical objects do not exist because they are imaginary. His argument was so powerful that none of his colleagues could refute it. Finally, after trying and trying all day long, exasperated, one of his colleagues, said, "To hell with this. I refute him thus..." and he kicked a rock.

[mandyjw]

14 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

If I were in Las Vegas right now I'd have touched Leo and proved that he exists in real 

C'mon now, can't argue that he is real. 

Are you objectifying Leo?  

Just because you do touch something, doesn't make it real. You may see water in the desert, but you can't drink it. illusions are not just reserved for the eyes. 

[Guest SirVladimir]

6 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

If I were in Las Vegas right now I'd have touched Leo and proved that he exists in real 

Well, truth is, you are not in Las Vegas, yet this does not change how you relate to the substance of this "Leo" thought.

Well, truth is, you are in Las Vegas because the whole conception of places is appearing here. You are within a framework of thoughts.

Leo has no body form and neither have ghosts. 

User @Matt8800 has had a good thread in the past about "paranormal" matters. I suggest it's a good place to start if anyone wishes to dive into it.

[Preety_India]

44 minutes ago, mandyjw said:

You may see water in the desert, but you can't drink

Yes. Because there is no water there. It's an illusion. So I can't touch or drink the water because there is no water. 

But Leo is not an illusion. I can see him in real life. I can touch him. Thus he is not an illusion. He totally exists. 

Leo is. 

[Michal__]

1 minute ago, Preety_India said:

Yes. Because there is no water there. It's an illusion. So I can't touch or drink the water because there is no water. 

But Leo is not an illusion. I can see him in real life. I can touch him. Thus he is not an illusion. He totally exists. 

Leo is. 

How can you be sure. Have you ever touched him? 

[Preety_India]

@Michal__ lmao do I have to? 

It's so obvious that me or anyone can touch him. 

Edited October 25, 2020 by Preety_India

[Michal__]

2 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

@Michal__ lmao do I have to? 

It's so obvious that me or anyone can touch him. 

Of course you can. It is just that there is no Leo until you observe him.

You observed him by thinking about touching him. 

[Leo Gura]

@Preety_India Have you never touched a human inside a dream, only to awaken and realize it was all your own mind?

Why do you believe touch is real???

Why are you so gullible???

Can I sell you a bag of magic beans?

[Preety_India]

@Leo Gura yes I have. 

But you're definitely not a dream. You are as real as a chair I'm sitting on. 

 

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Preety_India said:

You are as real as a chair I'm sitting on.

Hate to spoil it for ya

[AtheisticNonduality]

@Leo Gura By saying you can study the truth of pseudoscientific things with the brain chemistry of insane people, you're kind of refuting your argument about conspiracy theories being wrong. The brain chemistry of someone that believes in pseudoscience is less connected to Love then, say, someone with the same personality that DOES believe in logic. Your Antarctica analogy is good, and there is a pre-trans aspect when it comes to Antarctica, but some things are just stupid and not worth studying for the world we live in.

[AtheisticNonduality]

2 hours ago, SirVladimir said:

What humanity calls paranormal is, in other words, "Oh, shit, this has yet to grow natural for me." Astral projection is very real, and I have been slowly peeking my head into occultism too. If you want a more scientific introduction into the matter, I recommend Dean Radin's Real Magic.

Yes, the occult is pure Turquoise.  Depends on what you mean by astral projection though. My understanding is that it's a type of lucid dreaming where you manipulate mental/spiritual energies to align the world with Will/Love.