For f*ck's sake Leo

[Origins]

@Applegarden And they use "you hurt me / you're hurting others" as their narrative for why you're bad and should go see a priest who's fucking children.

[Origins]

Oh and you know what else I want, I want more of the lowest IQ people in third world countries to keep on bypassing our (Australia here - I know many of you are from USA and elsewhere) shitty immigration laws to keep growing the consciousness of our country! YES BRING EM IN AND NO ONE SAY A THING UNLESS ITS POLITE!

What would make it better? Bring em ALL to this forum, yes we need more retarded people here! MORE! YES! YES!

I'm HAVING AN ORGANISM RIGHT NOW JUST THINKING ABOUT IT!

Edited October 25, 2020 by Origins

[lmfao]

3 hours ago, Tim R said:

But I think calling people dumb does more harm than good. I doubt it very much that this particular person will have awakened to his/her ignorance by your comment.

And they wouldn't have listened to a well thought out, cordial reply either. The person was disrespectful and arrogant from the get go. And was talking like a cult follower who missed the point entirely. Don't bother trying to be meek and submissive with someone like that. 

 

Edited October 25, 2020 by lmfao

[Tim R]

1 hour ago, lmfao said:

And they wouldn't have listened to a well thought out, cordial reply either. The person was disrespectful and arrogant from the get go. And was talking like a cult follower who missed the point entirely. Don't degrade yourself by trying to be meek and submissive with someone like that. 

 

Well in that case it's not necessary to call them dumb either.

[meow_meow]

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You should be thankful I haven't yanked on your nutsack yet

This actually opens a lot of space for questions - do monks grab each others nutsacks?
What about women?
If a man is grabbing another man by his nutsack, is that considered homosexual? What if the one getting grabbed by his nutsack actually is not homosexual but the grabber is, would that be considered sexual-harassment ?

[Raphael]

@Origins I'm already here. Oh... and I think I'll go to Australia one day

[Tim R]

1 hour ago, meow_meow said:

do monks grab each others nutsacks?
What about women?

Trump knows the answer to that one??

[Natasha]

17 minutes ago, meow_meow said:

This actually opens a lot of space for questions - do monks grab each others nutsacks?
What about women?
If a man is grabbing another man by his nutsack, is that considered homosexual? What if the one getting grabbed by his nutsack actually is not homosexual but the grabber is, would that be considered sexual-harassment ?

Zen devilism gets worse than that, I read molestations in monasteries are quite a common thing too.

[Carl-Richard]

3 hours ago, Tim R said:

And now what? 

Do we get a license to call people dumb if it's for their own good?

You're blowing this way out of proportion.

[Shin]

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You're blowing this way out of proportion.

It's not out of proportion, that's exactly what Leo does lol

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Shin said:

It's not out of proportion, that's exactly what Leo does lol

I don't understand.

[Tim R]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

I don't understand.

What exactly don't you understand?

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Tim R said:

What exactly don't you understand?

What he said.

[Shin]

Just as a reminder, Leo said he knows very well that he is too «dickish» in one of his last video (one of the ego developement model).

So he knows.

It's just an extremely difficult thing to change, so don't expect massive change on the short term.

If you pay close attention, he's already changed a lot in the past few months.

[Gesundheit]

4 hours ago, Tim R said:

And now what? 

Do we get a license to call people dumb if it's for their own good?

What about teachers in school? If some student is completely wrong, should they lovingly and humorously call them out for being stupid while hoping that it's still rude enough to confront them with their ignorance which then results in an epiphany?

Kids don't understand love nor humor. It would cause more harm than good to treat them that way (not really sure about that though). But we are adults and we should take responsibility for our feelings and be able to deal with anything life throws at us. If one cannot take a few harsh words, then he's too soft for real life.

Still, by no means I'm justifying Leo's attitude. Ultimately, you shouldn't need to call people names or criticize or even try to teach others or change the world. But "ultimately" is not here yet, and Leo has been dealing with harsh comments for years so it's really understandable that he's used to them and that they probably don't trigger him at all, so he doesn't expect them to trigger others that much. To him, it probably feels normal, maybe even a necessary spice for conversations. It shouldn't be very different from a trauma that gets stored in the body. I assume the difference is that Leo is not holding it back but instead is releasing it. So it'll probably take a few more years until he's totally over that attitude. He says that he is deliberately making his comments harsh but I highly doubt it. I think he could not stop himself if he wanted to. It would not feel right to him. He says that we should develop a sense of humor, and I get it. But that's him deflecting the truth of the matter and returning it onto us (rightfully so) instead of doing inner reflection. It's all fine though, and there's no need to do anything about anything. We're all just a bunch of inevitabilities playing out.

Edited October 25, 2020 by Gesundheit

[Gesundheit]

Ahhhh I just remembered this iconic Actualized video:

Good old days ❤️❤️❤️

[Someone here]

Come on Leo you have 1M subs now.. Gotta work on that. It's basic human to human respect stuff. 

I just don't like it at all when he locks a thread and leave an insult  as the last comment. It's really bad and he should be more mature than that.  

[Thestarguitarist14]

1 hour ago, meow_meow said:

This actually opens a lot of space for questions - do monks grab each others nutsacks?
What about women?
If a man is grabbing another man by his nutsack, is that considered homosexual? What if the one getting grabbed by his nutsack actually is not homosexual but the grabber is, would that be considered sexual-harassment ?

go to 1:27.

[Shin]

26 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Come on Leo you have 1M subs now.. Gotta work on that. It's basic human to human respect stuff. 

I just don't like it at all when he locks a thread and leave an insult  as the last comment. It's really bad and he should be more mature than that.  

It's very unnatural for an Intx type to care about the appearance of his sentences.

Basically, if the meaning is correct, we just say whatever words come to mind.

For other types, this is an heresy and no matter how much the intention is good or not, they just don't accept it.

It's not because it's unnatural that it can't be changed though (and feel natural later).

Edited October 25, 2020 by Shin

[Someone here]

18 minutes ago, Shin said:

It's very unnatural for an Intx type to care about the appearance of his sentences.

Basically, if the meaning is correct, we just say whatever words come to mind.

For other types, this is an heresy and no matter how much the intention is good or not, they just don't accept it.

It's not because it's unnatural that it can't be changed though (and feel natural later).

Yeah maybe it's something in his personality type.. But even then he has to put some effort into being careful what is coming out of his mouth.. You can't have thousands idk perhaps millions of followers and supposedly teach high consciousness material and then go on insulting everyone.. I don't see any spiritual teacher doing that. Or any successful youtuber. 

Edited October 25, 2020 by Someone here