Need Clarification on God Consciousness and Infinite Love

[electroBeam]

Disclaimer

Had an experience recently which has shown me that I know absolutely nothing about what's truly going on. The experience would sound outlandish, weird, scary, etc in written form to most users. This is stuff I don't see talked about on this forum much, and I know it may seem like mental masturbation, or its just an experience I had because I'm not as enlightened as you are, but I would deeply appreciate if you at least try to keep an open mind to the possibility that this is a massive, radical experience that is not just mental masturbation, and yeah I might not be as enlightened as you are, but just telling me your adviata beliefs doesn't help, I need help on pointers moving forward from where I'm at. 

The Experience/Context

So became conscious the other day of the process of remembering and forgetting. I saw why forgetting you're one is important. Because forgetting you're one is necessary for creating finite. The cars, trees, houses, etc are all created through forgetting oneness. You can create anything you want, literally anything through forgetting, and you'll always arrive back at home due to suffering and love. Its truly amazing. And I'm not quite sure why forgetting is necessary at an epistemic/metaphysical level, but I'd definitely do it because I love creating realities. Creation is cool, its awesome! So forgetting is cool. Just don't get too lost like everyone else.

And enlightened people are just people who remember and forget very rapidly. You can only observe 1 thought at a time, and likewise you can only forget or remember, you can't both forget or remember at the same time. So what happens is, if you're conscious that form = formlessness, if you look at your hand and see infinity, that's because you're forgetting and remembering very very quickly. 1 Millisecond you're forgetting and you're at the godhead, next millisecond you've forgotten the godhead and you're the hand, etc. Its fucken amazing. Well that's my experience anyway. And of course time isn't real, but reality changes still, it transitions still. Time = illusion doesn't mean things don't change obviously. You're still viewing 1 thought at a time even if time isn't there.

Seeing the importance of forgetting, I decided to forget, but to forget consciously (instead of unconsciously like what I've been doing my entire life, or so I thought). I had to see my grandfather, and he's an amazing guy but sometimes its scary and I dread it because he's so negative and gets angry very easily. He talks about pessimistic politics and how horrible the human race is. But I'm like I'm just gonna get lost in the conversation and just enjoy the new universe of my pessimistic grandfather.

But this time I thought I'd do it consciously. So what I did was, before getting lost, I had the brilliant idea of creating stuff to remind myself of who I am incase the conversation with my grandfather gets too out of hand. 

I felt into my body, and grew an energy that would be powerful enough to remind myself that the source is the answer. I also implanted some memories to remind myself to come back to the source.

It worked amazingly, it was such an awesome experience, I was able to get lost in my grandfather's realm, enter his head, see things the way he sees things, conjure up lots of possibilities about the universe, got lost in it. 

Yet it was so cool, so fucking cool experiencing this, I got lost, totally forgot I was the source, yet I had a vague sense that the energy was important, because before seeing my grandad, I remembered (while lost) that the energy was important for some reason. Totally forgot why, I forgot the source completely, but I remembered the energy was sacred. I also had some memories that very vaguely reminded me of the source. And so I got a bit too lost, and I started feeling into that energy and then boom reminded myself of the source and I was back.

And that was ridiculously cool, because you can get the best of both worlds, and just the mechanism of the whole dynamic of how that energy and memories was a vehicle back to the source... it was so cool to watch.

But then... of course my curiosity got the better of me, and I started wondering who invented meditation techniques, yoga techniques, psychedelics, etc. And then the biggest mindfuck ever happened... I got a vague memory that I wanted to jump into the crazy life I'm in now, but I wanted to do it consciously, so what I did was I (vividly remember) created psychedelics, yoga techniques, meditation techniques, spiritual teachers like Leo, so that I would find my way out of the crazy dream....

And it was literally me who did that. Not the God version of me, not my higher self, it was literally me. I can't lay the responsibility on anyone else, because it was me who did that. 

It was just a taste, I couldn't feel everything that was going on, but I just remembered my entire life is a grandiose version of that mini experience with my grandad. 

And now I'm wondering, if I created meditation techniques, what else did I create? Why did I create it? Did I create my boss? And did I do it for a grand reason? What is this world really? What else have I forgotten that I did? OMG there's so much I could have done in this world that I've just forgotten.

Now my life has shifted from what it was to total mindfuck. I'm just paralyzed by mind fuckery. I know nothing, really nothing, I've forgotten so much, and I don't know what's really going on here. And I'm trying to remember, but I can't seem to remember. And how much is there to remember? How much stuff have I done? What if it goes on forever? What if I've forgotten infinitely??????

So I thought I knew what God consciousness and infinite love was, but now I don't think so.

Clarification Questions

What is God consciousness? I feel like I am the present moment, but until recently, I didn't feel like I created all the finite stuff around me. I felt like everything was there due to infinity, that's why all the forms are there. But now I'm starting to wonder whether all the forms are there for more then just because of infinity, but because I had a very powerful reason to put them there, and I've just forgotten. 

What is infinite love? I have felt that the feeling of love = infinite connectedness. Its like when every cell of infinity connects with itself. Its when you're fully and utterly connected, but what does it mean by the universe is structured to maximize love? That's not in my experience, I feel like the universe is infinitely connected, but its not structured to be infinitely connected, it just IS connected by default. Does maximizing love tie in with the experience/memory I had?

[Fran11]

1 hour ago, electroBeam said:

And enlightened people are just people who remember and forget very rapidly. You can only observe 1 thought at a time, and likewise you can only forget or remember, you can't both forget or remember at the same time. So what happens is, if you're conscious that form = formlessness, if you look at your hand and see infinity, that's because you're forgetting and remembering very very quickly. 1 Millisecond you're forgetting and you're at the godhead, next millisecond you've forgotten the godhead and you're the hand, etc.

Interesting experience! Thanks for sharing.

I think I understand what you mean. But I don't think it works that way in the case of Enlightened people.

Forgetting means seeing trough the mind's filtters, which are what creates the sense of duality. Non-enlightened people need to "forget" or shut-off those filters in order to experience non-duality. That's why in sober meditation you need to completely silence your mind in order to enter Samadhi. Or by doing years of daily mindfulness and self-inquiry (which probably is your case) those filtters are slowly being dismanteled and non-dual consciousness first begins to reveal itself in those flashes when you see trough the filters, which is what I feel you are calling "forgetting".

Enlightened people's (meaning someone who's in permanent non-dual consciousness) mind is rewired in such a way that it doesn't create those dualistic filters anymore, they are gone for good, and the mind can be active without creating the sense of separation. 

Edited October 19, 2020 by Fran11

[Nahm]

 

1 hour ago, electroBeam said:

I know absolutely nothing

Between here and ....

1 hour ago, electroBeam said:

What is God consciousness?

...these...

1 hour ago, electroBeam said:

What is infinite love?

...a thought appeared which is still the present, a book or it’s content...and the story continues or is noticed to be passing by. Couldn’t matter less either way. Another story will always appear, and you never leave. You’re always here. 

[zeroISinfinity]

@Nahm Infinite Love is a thought?! 

Well it's actuality. 

@electroBeamGod Consciousness is here. You are always here. Currently veiled pretending you are human. 

Difference is felt. 

Consciousness =God =Infinite Love as actuality. 

Edited October 19, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[electroBeam]

@Fran11 nice description!

47 minutes ago, Nahm said:

 

Between here and ....

...these...

...a thought appeared which is still the present, a book or it’s content...and the story continues or is noticed to be passing by. Couldn’t matter less either way. Another story will always appear, and you never leave. You’re always here. 

'

 

[Preety_India]

The universe is the God. This is your consciousness. Consciousness is infinite. Infinite love is God. 

It's all connected. 

[hyruga]

God consciousness is to realise everyone of us is God's child. So always be loving and good to everyone and everything because we are all connected.  

[zeroISinfinity]

3 hours ago, hyruga said:

God consciousness is to realise everyone of us is God's child. So always be loving and good to everyone and everything because we are all connected.  

I guess you are right no more PvP. 

PwP, this Jed guy is so right. Call me out again pls. 

Edited October 20, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[Nahm]

@zeroISinfinity Out.

[zeroISinfinity]

Just now, Nahm said:

@zeroISinfinity Out.

I love you so much, I love you all just "the attitude" working on that. 

[Nahm]

@zeroISinfinity

“When I am with you, we stay up all night.
When you’re not here, I can’t go to sleep.
Praise God for those two insomnias!
And the difference between them.”

Rumi

I love you! 

[electroBeam]

15 minutes ago, Nahm said:

 

“When I am with you, we stay up all night.
When you’re not here, I can’t go to sleep.
Praise God for those two insomnias!
And the difference between them.”

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Edited October 20, 2020 by electroBeam

[zeroISinfinity]

16 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@zeroISinfinity

“When I am with you, we stay up all night.
When you’re not here, I can’t go to sleep.
Praise God for those two insomnias!
And the difference between them.”

Rumi

I love you! 

Get it right. 

[ajai]

@electroBeam Interesting Experience !!

Anyway,

13 hours ago, electroBeam said:

but just telling me your adviata beliefs doesn't help

What do you mean by that?

If you mean Advaita Beliefs what are those beliefs?

[Someone here]

13 hours ago, electroBeam said:

I know absolutely nothing about what's truly going on. 

And why is that a problem?   You don't know that. Maybe it's not a problem. Maybe that's how it should be. Or maybe you don't know anything except for this one thing? 

 

[zeroISinfinity]

@Nahm Restless like never before, you can't imagine how much+"feelings" (you know what I mean)+ can't sleep at all. 

It was never like this. Trust me. 

Have no idea what to do. Can't bare this man. No drugs. 

Edited October 20, 2020 by zeroISinfinity

[SpiritualAwakening]

Long story short: If you don't 'die' you will never find out. There is no point in asking on a forum because you will never grasp it through the words, specially since we all hold different perceptions and give different values to the perceptions. 

And I mean die as in dying before you die. Not physical death.

Edited October 20, 2020 by SpiritualAwakening

[Nahm]

@zeroISinfinity

One of the beauty’s of the dreamboard situation is ‘what to do’ is already answered, already there on the board in terms of things you can do & focus on that you enjoy, and on the other side of the coin, the purification is therefore already unfolding, Big Love is already cleaning out the house (yeah bamboozled sorry, got me too, whatchgonnado). You don’t have to ‘do’anything sans maybe let the habit of doing something about it go. You  just chill, and re-chill, again & again, breathe from the stomach and feel it, and let Big Love clean you out by fillin ya up. Non-doing in that regard...non-thought-narrativing, non-avoidance, non-blaming, non-roping someone else into it, non-kicking-dog, etc, is enough. Just ‘staying out of the way’. 

Also, I know you know we know yada yada so I’ll say it this way.... Big Love is the creator. You are the creator. You can be on purpose, you can expedite and ‘meet in the middle’, by creating purposefully. Turn pain into beauty. Doesn’t have to be some Momo Kapor level. Simple sketching, writing a short story, planting flowers in a vase for ya lady, etc, anything creative will do. This is closing any gap (not to imply you are not 100% legitimately fully completely “enlightened”) of creator-creation, and This is always non-past, non-future, non-self, non-other, so yeah, some emptying may indeed occur. In hindsight, it’ll just be all the baggage you were done carrying anyways. One notion from di that I think is helpful to hear...whereas before I’d create an emotion in discord not realizing I did and it’d last for days....then eventually it was just hours...then I saw how I was creating ‘them’, and didn’t anymore. Sending you the ‘vibes’ best man. You got this. (By that I mean keep giving it away). Shload of love to you ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️?

Also came to mind...writing some, any, agenda the day before is a game changer. That way when you wake up during the purification period days (also good for regular old days), there’s no call to thinking. Creation at the ‘us’ point begins at the supposition, so even just one single good feeling relaxation oriented thought can change the course and tone of the whole day. 

[Dodo]

@electroBeam  It's easy. Accept you will never know. Sounds easy... It is. You know that you are always experiencing, right? You are always aware. Now, actually realise and grasp the simple fact that you will NEVER know that which is outside of awareness and that you DONT actually know and NEVER will know anything outside of awareness. Don't pretend to know if there is something there or if there isn't. I found this to be Wow. I feel connected to something by honoring its mystery instead of projecting my ignorance onto it. 

Love <3 

do not try to understand, and even if you do, realise that no matter how much you understand there is absolutely ALWAYS something there which remains unknown and untouched. Honor and respect that. Do not project that you know. Yes, you know that you know and you will not lose that knowledge. Love is SUPREME and the highest power. 

It's kind of funny. Here is a mantra for you: "YES I know that I know, but I don't really know much other than that LOL " 

Edited October 20, 2020 by Dodo

[electroBeam]

8 hours ago, Someone here said:

And why is that a problem? 

 

your mum doesn't know anything either, is she awake?