Logan Paul Interviews Sadhguru. Questions about Psychedelics and many more!

[Rilles]

4 hours ago, Lyubov said:

He says he always was just intuitive and basically was enlightened by 4 years old.

What? no... he said he had first experience much later... Dont put him on a pedestal... he worked for his enlightenment too

"Aged thirteen, Yasudev took yoga lessons from Malladihalli Raghavendra, and kept practicing asanas and pranayama[14] daily throughout his youth, albeit without spiritual aspirations.[15] At the age of 25, on 23 September 1982, he went up Chamundi Hill and sat on a rock, where he had a 'spiritual experience'."

Edited October 18, 2020 by Rilles

[PurpleTree]

12 minutes ago, Rilles said:

What? no... he said he had first experience much later... Dont put him on a pedestal... he worked for his enlightenment too

"Aged thirteen, Yasudev took yoga lessons from Malladihalli Raghavendra, and kept practicing asanas and pranayama[14] daily throughout his youth, albeit without spiritual aspirations.[15] At the age of 25, on 23 September 1982, he went up Chamundi Hill and sat on a rock, where he had a 'spiritual experience'."

In this interview he said he started looking at glasses of water fo hours

and staring and paying attention to teachers at 4 yrs old, like no one else ever paid attention to them or something along those lines

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Applegarden said:

How do you know, if you haven't even entertained his teachings? You should ask his devotees, or try his teachings GOD FORBID.

Here, i will even give you a technique. The probablility of you even trying to entertain something you don't agree with is laughable to me. Instead you will just put more exposee videos. But this thing saved my life and chaged it the most. The difference between me and you is that i actually did the technique and seen the benefits. That is how i gained trust for him. What a wonderful world it would be if people would come and ask me about my life than hearing about my life from other people and making assumptions or even acting because of what other say about me LOL. Yes because many more people agree with Sadhguru and he says things more logically, you like him, sure. About the "good things", time will tell, lets see. Who knows, i can def say for sure, he helped me when i needed it the most, and with the simplest things also, I just had to execute the teachings and thats basically it. No drama for me whatsoever. Does it work or not is the question? 

 

Well, your mind will change many times. And, this is a perfect oppurtunity to use your self-inquiry mechanism. Answer me, why would you not want to just go and practice what he teaches and look for what others say and throw me any exposee video of his on my face? For an extended period of time maybe, before you reach conclusions? Do you feel like you have something to lose? Do you fear what other people will think of you? Are you affraid he will manipulate you and do some harm to you? If not, why is it? If you keep listening to other people, before trying it out yourself, is that a succesfull life? Yeah by that logic you will have as mediocre results as the masses have. If Leo listened to people around him, before trying anything in self-dev, we wouldn't be arguing today. Even the people who wrote the books that he read, A HUGE MINORITY SAYING COUNTER-INTUITIVE THINGS.

These people exposing Nithyananda could be politically motivated and some just an average gamer who seeks to justify his worldview and make a good buck, like this guy, who already saw an exposee on Nithyananda and just joined the club of exposees.

Or i am just a little innocent bla bla bla *LoGiCaL aNd RaTiOnAl GuY tAkInG pSyChEdElIcS, hE iS oUt Of HiS MiNd* type of guy?

So if you say unclutch, do you mean in a way let go of the bodily tension and thought of that desire etc.? He didn't explain it very well imo just said "sit with it, don't judge etc. and then unclutch from the desire"

Or do you want to make a topic about this technique if it helped you so much?

[An young being]

2 hours ago, ajai said:

That's not happening anytime soon or prolly never.

Cos he is not some random experience hunter but a genuine explorer and seeker of TRUTH, 

He might already have tried, maybe once, but can't tell in public because people will get addicted to them without proper knowledge, just like some people here who have got addicted and not able to come out of it. And of course it's not legal in his home ground.

2 hours ago, Applegarden said:

Potentially A LOT of people in the future? Hello? Maybe actualized too? If Leo gets enlightened? And grows? And i don't think Nithyananda is a billionare, but a millionare, just like Sadhguru, Sri Ravi Shankar, Baba Ramdev? Sure maybe they don't personally claim the wealth, but the organistions have to be worth millions??? Hmmmmmm? https://medium.com/@tomarryash14/top-5-wealthy-india-gurus-and-their-net-worth-7e681efed452 

Yes, those who are popular among masses are very good in amassing wealth, that's the reason I never put my full trust on them.

How do you know, if you haven't even entertained his teachings? You should ask his devotees, or try his teachings GOD FORBID.

Here, i will even give you a technique. 

I am happy that his Unclutch ® technique has worked for you. What I am trying to warn you is that it is very easy to get deceived once you start trusting someone with a completely open mind, just because one thing he said works great.

 

[An young being]

@Applegarden sorry that you have to write so many points to justify your views, I am glad that you took your time. Here are my views to give a clear idea of my point:

1) A spiritual guru becomes popular among masses mainly because

•  communication and technique to meditate is good ( although all techniques are modified versions of centuries old texts)
• Claims to have mystical powers ( only claimed but never shown, what is shown easily gets decoded as cheap magic tricks)
• Does or seems to do a lot of good things to society
• Has a firm group of believers who does whatever the guru says ( it's easy to get a lot of believers once they are open minded enough and are personally benefited by them in some way.)
• Has political support

Personally, I will look only for the first point with an open mind like you said. For other things, I need to use my logical mind, no matter if it is Nityananda or Sadhguru ( both these guys I have seen in close quarters) or Leo.

The reason being, these popular gurus also use their logical mind to justify their points. ( Like Nityananda trying to make animals speak scientifically or Sadhguru quoting pseudoscience as proofs here and there). Listening to them with an open mind is very very very dangerous for your physical or mental well being.

Being open minded is the first step to spirituality and I am happy that you are, but you need to know the difference between spirituality and fake mysticism, the line separating them being very thin.

[ajai]

1 hour ago, An young being said:

people will get addicted to them without proper knowledge

Sure, let's reflect on this more...a quick throwback

 

[Applegarden]

@An young being I did it mainly to show you, i am capable of a conversation. Usually the impression of people who admire spiritual gurus and follow them is that they are really dumb. I am not saying you tought that, i just considered this possibility.

I am very grateful for an emotionally intelligent response. Really.

Just now, An young being said:

Claims to have mystical powers ( only claimed but never shown, what is shown easily gets decoded as cheap magic tricks)

I have witnessed akashik readings in an online session and psychic powers from his balasants where a child in a span of few seconds told me what i have on the phone screen and she literally said - isha foundation adiyogi statue and read what i have on paper, upside down. I can't unsee this, i am sorry. And there is more, that i will never get into, for a simple fear, especially in my private life, then i really have to disown everyone. Nor I am asking you to believe me, but i can't delete this event from my life and just move on like nothing happened.

Just now, An young being said:

Has a firm group of believers who does whatever the guru says ( it's easy to get a lot of believers once they are open minded enough and are personally benefited by them in some way.)

That is a very unfortunate thing. Most of the time the group gives the person a really bad name. That is why I mainly do not talk about spirituality with people in my life, even if I see that some are receptive to that stuff. And i literally have fear from what will happen if they find out. 

Just now, An young being said:

The reason being, these popular gurus also use their logical mind to justify their points. ( Like Nityananda trying to make animals speak scientifically or Sadhguru quoting pseudoscience as proofs here and there). Listening to them with an open mind is very very very dangerous for your physical or mental well being.

That is an interesting thing, I am not sure if I agree to you, because I have acctually ventured to the depths of disciple-guru relationship. I can only logically express like 2% and 98% i can't.

It's like Leo saying: "I wouldn't expect that Sadhguru will give you enlightenment". Well, my immediate question is: "Why not?" And then the "you are being mindcontroled and are acctually stupid for believing it and something has to be wrong with you" comes up. But then, would i rather believe extraordinary human being or a bunch of mediocre ones praising the same thing (No offence to Leo, i don't think he is mediocre). Anyway you are kinda fucked, relating to reaity whatsoever. Who knows, how to live, what to do, how to do, what is life e.c.t.

I look it this way. Either I listen to somebody whos religion is based on smoking or projection of hatred, who is not getting any results in life and is in a hurry to teach everyone how to live OR listening to somebody who says he can be happy and gives you metodology to do so. Maybe it is worth golden thrones, i don't care. I know, money is useful, but not gonna make me fullfilled. If he can run his organisation while being happy and working 20 hours a day, maybe he can run the entire world, i am not compenent enough to evaluate that.

Just now, An young being said:

Being open minded is the first step to spirituality and I am happy that you are, but you need to know the difference between spirituality and fake mysticism, the line separating them being very thin.

I don't think I know where it is nor you know how to check.

I deeply appreciate your response, cheers, love and light!

Imma off to do something I acctually want to do, rather than frying my brain on the forum.

[Applegarden]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

So if you say unclutch, do you mean in a way let go of the bodily tension and thought of that desire etc.? He didn't explain it very well imo just said "sit with it, don't judge etc. and then unclutch from the desire"

Or do you want to make a topic about this technique if it helped you so much?

I usually don't get past the image part of Nithyananda. Coversations usually end after endless responses aginst the accusations aginst him.

Do you know what will happen if i make a post here about Nithyananda? Either nobody will comment, or I will have to constantly argue aginst 20 people like yourself, who couldn't give more fuck about his teachings. And that is time wasted, see my journal to look what i acctually plan for doing. Because i have something I want to do while paying the bills, and keeping myself spiritually lubricated, thanks to Nithyananda and other gurus, hehe.

There is about 10+ more videos of him talking about unclutching, if you do a simple yt search. He even copyrighted the word so you don't get the wrong definiton of what he is saying.

In his book called living enlightenment 125.p there is a mention about unclutching. http://lifeblissprograms.org/e-books/pdf/le_abridged.pdf

Literally what you do in my own terms is. Notice that there is a sensation or a tought arising.

If it is a tought (inner voice) of your mind - then for a brief moment notice that it is there - then decide to keep unclutching. Declare your will to make that tought lose its emotional, sensational or mental impact on you. If you get lost in the tought process or feel unable to unclutch, keep deciding to unclutch, unclutch, unclutch. You will see the effects yourself if you do this for 20 minutes a day. What i feel is bliss in my manipuraka and swadishtana, depending upon what is it that i am unclutching from - fear or lust (the meaning of toughts expresses as emotion and sensation).

If that is a sensation - pain, vision, picture in your mind, tiredness, agitation, resistance, anger, fear, boredom. And if you just try to unclutch from it - first of all noticing that it is there and willing to unclutch from it (distance yourself from it), discarge yourself from it, it is like turning a heavy steering wheel, it is intense, but the results can be very fast and last up to few days. The after effect of such practices is like volcano errputing in you with bliss, once you get it. Of course, it doesn't relieve you of dark night of the soul, aka - either ego backlash or suffering. That is why you use consciousness to evolve further in this journey. The actual benefits after trying, to unclutch, unclutch and unclutch - almost like a mantra to express your will to change the direction, will happen progressively over time, and there is immense benefit to trying to unclutch. The actual benefits are greater than the initial ones, your self image will improve and there will be more complete feeling of life.

That is my PERSONAL experience from practicing this and other techniques. Idk, his explanation works for me. And i have watched multiple vids on unclutching, multiple times - because my motivation was to make it work, because i was so desperate at the time. There you go "well if it worked so well for you bla bla bla".

The burden of proof is on you. I don't have to justify anything. It's on you. I just chose to do so, i don't know if its even worth it. Do you even meditate? I did before hand i tried unclutching and of course it works, because i just did it consistently.

The bottom line is just keep deciding to unclutch, your being underestands what you are trying to do, don't worry.

Or in more technical steps.

1.See what you are about to unclutch from.

2.Decide to unclutch from it for some amount of time to reduce it's impact on you - its like hitting the brakes, it just reduces the speed in a lower manner.

3.At the end of every session unclutch from even the concept of unclutching.

4.Enjoy

 

Edited October 18, 2020 by Applegarden

[lmfao]

@Chi_ The concept of this video is hilarious. I couldn't have asked for a more funny crossover. 

This is what's lovely about Sadhguru's style. He can communicate with just about anyone. Even if I don't think he's the best teacher if you're serious about spiritual work. 

[Display_Name]

10 hours ago, An young being said:

Imagine an enlightened guy running a billion dollar business.

Ok, I am.

And now?

[An young being]

15 minutes ago, Display_Name said:

Ok, I am.

And now?

Imagine the same guy making everyone believe that he doesn't need a penny he earns for himself. 

Anyways, the point is already made.

I understand the meaning you are getting at, but what is conveyed is this: There is nothing wrong for an enlightened guy to be rich by his hard work , but to be rich by deceiving people, I suggest you stay away from such guys. This is only a general statement and not targeting any particular guru.

[Lyubov]

Why does Sahdguru say it is possible to levitate but there is no sort of common displays of this? is it a mystical experience to levitate that's why or something that exists in a reality alternative from mine that which can be switched over to?

[Fadl]

Sadhguru keep talking about miracles, OK man show me one!!! 

 

Anyway he reminds me of Bill Gates, they have the same structure.

[Chi_]

6 hours ago, lmfao said:

@Chi_ The concept of this video is hilarious. I couldn't have asked for a more funny crossover. 

This is what's lovely about Sadhguru's style. He can communicate with just about anyone. Even if I don't think he's the best teacher if you're serious about spiritual work. 

Yeah exactly and feel like that's kind of the role he plays in the world right now. Someone who can bring atleast a small drop of spirituality to every person on the planet. Not necessary enlighten everyone. At this rate, I think he could achieve that before he goes for good.

[Chi_]

21 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I'll interview Sadhguru on one condition: he smokes 30mg of 5-MeO-DMT on camera.

Eventhough I'd pay a thousand dollars to see that happen, one reason I doubt he might ever consider coming on your show is because your fanbase already know him. I think he's mainly aiming at reaching people who have no clue about spirituality. That's maybe why all these strange collabs he's doing recently.

[Brittany]

On 10/16/2020 at 7:37 AM, acidgoofy said:

Just realized how I misjudged logan

Same here.

[Lyubov]

4 hours ago, dflores321 said:

Sadghuru on joe rogan show would be awesome! 

Joe: oh by the way, have you ever tried dmt?

Sadghuru: I am dmt.

Joe: ....

Sadghuru: yes or no?! 

 

Sadhguru on Joe Rogan would be painful to watch 

[Rilles]

Oh, man stage Orange is so clueless, props for trying to understand though. These bros were more openminded than I thought they would be. I dont understand Sadhgurus gripe with Socialism though. You cant just expect everyone to become Enligthened and then its peachy. We need a good social structure first. Good luck with your mystical smhmystical stuff when an African Rebel burns down your village. Seems Sadhguru went straight to Turquoise and missed some important Yellow thinking. 

[PurpleTree]

20 hours ago, Applegarden said:

There is about 10+ more videos of him talking about unclutching, if you do a simple yt search. He even copyrighted the word so you don't get the wrong definiton of what he is saying.

In his book called living enlightenment 125.p there is a mention about unclutching. http://lifeblissprograms.org/e-books/pdf/le_abridged.pdf

Literally what you do in my own terms is. Notice that there is a sensation or a tought arising.

...

 

thanks dude, appreciate it.

[nistake]

That was pretty good. I liked the way how Sadghuru tried to explain non-duality to them.