Questioning my awakenings

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, cetus said:

@Leo Gura Contemplating the deeper aspects of Love I find myself strangely unconcerned and without preference. Like that is the original state.

Love is it's own reward.

If you had Infinite Love, what else would you want?

[erik8lrl]

Ego is infinite love. Become conscious of that, and the ego will disappear into nothing. 

[Javfly33]

55 minutes ago, erik8lrl said:

Ego is infinite love. Become conscious of that, and the ego will disappear into nothing. 

Yes I have! Each and all of my neurosis, lies, manipulations, self-hates, criticizisms...etc are love and are perfect.

Yet...from the ego perspective, these are not seen as love, since inside the relative ego world, there´s a duality between good and bad for survival to happen.

So my ego is love. But that´s just from absolute and truth perspective. And im not i that perspecive most of the time. 

[erik8lrl]

@Javfly33 That perspective(duality and separation) itself is love. To be in it yet still awake and conscious of infinite love(non-duality) at the same time is the state you will have through more awakenings. The deeper you go, the more unified the two becomes. To be God means to be everything, including your ego.

[hyruga]

I don't know whether I am in the right path but all along, i never care about enlightenment or awakening. 

You can check this out: Enlightenment is about realizing that there's nothing to realize

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/vb0ln/enlightenment_is_about_realizing_that_theres/

or this

During his enlightenment, the Buddha found the answer to these questions. He discovered three great truths. He explained these truths in a simple way so that everyone could understand them.

1. Nothing is lost in the universe

The first truth is that nothing is lost in the universe. Matter turns into energy, energy turns into matter. A dead leaf turns into soil. A seed sprouts and becomes a new plant. Old solar systems disintegrate and turn into cosmic rays. We are born of our parents, our children are born of us.

We are the same as plants, as trees, as other people, as the rain that falls. We consist of that which is around us, we are the same as everything. If we destroy something around us, we destroy ourselves. If we cheat another, we cheat ourselves. Understanding this truth, the Buddha and his disciples never killed any animal.

2. Everything Changes

The second universal truth of the Buddha is that everything is continuously changing. Life is like a river flowing on and on, ever-changing. Sometimes it flows slowly and sometimes swiftly. It is smooth and gentle in some places, but later on snags and rocks crop up out of nowhere. As soon as we think we are safe, something unexpected happens.

Once dinosaurs, mammoths, and saber-toothed tigers roamed this earth. They all died out, yet this was not the end of life. Other life forms like smaller mammals appeared, and eventually humans, too. Now we can even see the Earth from space and understand the changes that have taken place on this planet. Our ideas about life also change. People once believed that the world was flat, but now we know that it is round.

3. Law of Cause and Effect

The third universal truth explained by the Buddha is that there is continuous changes due to the law of cause and effect. This is the same law of cause and effect found in every modern science textbook. In this way, science and Buddhism are alike.

The law of cause and effect is known as karma. Nothing ever happens to us unless we deserves it. We receive exactly what we earn, whether it is good or bad. We are the way we are now due to the things we have done in the past. Our thoughts and actions determine the kind of life we can have. If we do good things, in the future good things will happen to us. If we do bad things, in the future bad things will happen to us. Every moment we create new karma by what we say, do, and think. If we understand this, we do not need to fear karma. It becomes our friend. It teaches us to create a bright future.
The Buddha said,

"The kind of seed sown
 will produce that kind of fruit.
 Those who do good will reap good results.
 Those who do evil will reap evil results.
 If you carefully plant a good seed,
 You will joyfully gather good fruit."
                                    Dhammapada

Source: http://online.sfsu.edu/rone/Buddhism/footsteps.htm

[Javfly33]

55 minutes ago, hyruga said:

I don't know whether I am in the right path but all along, i never care about enlightenment or awakening. 

You can check this out: Enlightenment is about realizing that there's nothing to realize

https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/vb0ln/enlightenment_is_about_realizing_that_theres/

or this

During his enlightenment, the Buddha found the answer to these questions. He discovered three great truths. He explained these truths in a simple way so that everyone could understand them.

1. Nothing is lost in the universe

The first truth is that nothing is lost in the universe. Matter turns into energy, energy turns into matter. A dead leaf turns into soil. A seed sprouts and becomes a new plant. Old solar systems disintegrate and turn into cosmic rays. We are born of our parents, our children are born of us.

We are the same as plants, as trees, as other people, as the rain that falls. We consist of that which is around us, we are the same as everything. If we destroy something around us, we destroy ourselves. If we cheat another, we cheat ourselves. Understanding this truth, the Buddha and his disciples never killed any animal.

2. Everything Changes

The second universal truth of the Buddha is that everything is continuously changing. Life is like a river flowing on and on, ever-changing. Sometimes it flows slowly and sometimes swiftly. It is smooth and gentle in some places, but later on snags and rocks crop up out of nowhere. As soon as we think we are safe, something unexpected happens.

Once dinosaurs, mammoths, and saber-toothed tigers roamed this earth. They all died out, yet this was not the end of life. Other life forms like smaller mammals appeared, and eventually humans, too. Now we can even see the Earth from space and understand the changes that have taken place on this planet. Our ideas about life also change. People once believed that the world was flat, but now we know that it is round.

3. Law of Cause and Effect

The third universal truth explained by the Buddha is that there is continuous changes due to the law of cause and effect. This is the same law of cause and effect found in every modern science textbook. In this way, science and Buddhism are alike.

The law of cause and effect is known as karma. Nothing ever happens to us unless we deserves it. We receive exactly what we earn, whether it is good or bad. We are the way we are now due to the things we have done in the past. Our thoughts and actions determine the kind of life we can have. If we do good things, in the future good things will happen to us. If we do bad things, in the future bad things will happen to us. Every moment we create new karma by what we say, do, and think. If we understand this, we do not need to fear karma. It becomes our friend. It teaches us to create a bright future.
The Buddha said,

"The kind of seed sown
 will produce that kind of fruit.
 Those who do good will reap good results.
 Those who do evil will reap evil results.
 If you carefully plant a good seed,
 You will joyfully gather good fruit."
                                    Dhammapada

Source: http://online.sfsu.edu/rone/Buddhism/footsteps.htm

Most people from /Buddhism ain´t awoke. Don´t believe much from those mainstream sources.

[arlin]

On 15/10/2020 at 11:05 PM, Javfly33 said:

If I had realized so much times that I am not the thoughts, why 99% of the time I keep believing certain thoughts that resonate with certain character/Idea of myself? 

it's normal. i have this experience too after no self realization.

The character still has choices, decisions to make and ways to make it's life better after awakening.

awakening really brings nothing to the character.

 

[mandyjw]

On 10/15/2020 at 5:05 PM, Javfly33 said:

If I had so much awakenings, why my ego still tries to maintain a personal character?

If I had so much spiritual realizations, why my ego still usually falls into the same patters of the fake character?

If I had realized so much times that I am not the thoughts, why 99% of the time I keep believing certain thoughts that resonate with certain character/Idea of myself? 

How come If I have realized I am not the ficitonal character, still there´s an enormous amount of energy still concentrated to keep this character alive (I am not meaning the body, but the concept of ME)

Brain chemistry maybe? But truth is truth. How come the ego doesn´t let go still? Any advice?

An author loves her care-actors very much. She doesn't even have to tell herself that they aren't real. She gave birth to them, heroes and villains, all one in the same. 

It helps to differentiate between thoughts that sneakily seek a type of purity and escape from suffering by trying to no longer "play" your character, (I quit, and won't play another round, boohoo, sore loser), thoughts that are unaligned with source, Love, or the author's intentions, and thoughts that appear to pertain to a specific character but are also aligned with that Love. A child's play is pretend but also one of the most honest authentic things out there, and so is watching someone who is a master at acting and loves doing it. It's only when we are aware of ourselves as an actor and feel spilt, awkward, out of place and inauthentic, that we are acting out. 

Edited October 17, 2020 by mandyjw

[hyruga]

41 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Most people from /Buddhism ain´t awoke. Don´t believe much from those mainstream sources.

Oh okay. I am not buddhist though. If you check, I do post stuff from Christianity but overall, I don't care about awakening. 

Do what brings you joy.  

[Javfly33]

16 minutes ago, hyruga said:

Oh okay. I am not buddhist though. If you check, I do post stuff from Christianity but overall, I don't care about awakening. 

Do what brings you joy.  

I do appreciate your message thought. Thanks ??

[PurpleTree]

@Javfly33 When have you had your first "awakenings" ?

And how long have you been doing this stuff consistently?

[Nahm]

On 10/15/2020 at 5:05 PM, Javfly33 said:

Questioning my awakenings

If you are the subject, and the awakenings are yours...is awakening the objects? Something you have? 

7 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Yet I am not in that state most of the time.

Question, inspect, scrutinize...

How is time more than the thought, about time? How is a state more than the thought, about states? 

Can you describe / answer this, without talking about a yourself / without being the knower of  (objects) time & states?

Is perception “other selves”, or is perception perception? 

Are thoughts & words about yourself, actually about a yourself? 

What is the ‘you’ which is in time, in states? 

How precisely are you not the ‘time’, and not the ‘states’? 

What separates ‘you’ from time & states? 

Can a thought about a yourself, and or other selves, be true...if it is a thought? 

“And im not in that perspecive most of the time.”

Are you aware of perspective, or is perspective actually something you are “in”?

(If you ‘shift away’ from inspecting / answering those questions...just be sure to notice that, and not ‘beat up on yourself’ for it. Letting the thoughts appear & disappear, and feeling, is ‘the bigger point’. Careful not to miss that. )

[Mvrs]

On 10/15/2020 at 7:48 PM, Leo Gura said:

 

I've been in states where I can access the memories of every being in the universe. Since memory is just imagination. You are not really remembering your name, you are imagining it.

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You should make a video about this or a blog post. This the kinda stuff I been wondering about. @Leo Gura Keep up the great work!