Death of consciousness is logically impossible

[peachboy]

Death of consciousness is logically impossible. If you could be un-conscious then you would not even realise that you were un-conscious, and therefore cannot ever experience your own un-consciousness. If one cannot experience their own un-consciousness, then logically they can only ever experience consciousness. Or in other words: There can never be a moment when you are not having an experience. All that can change is the nature of that experience. That is true without end, without beginning, and transcendental of time itself.

Death has no dominion.

[Bulgarianspirit]

Death is just something consciousness imagined, you need a beginning and a end to a story, a thought, a dream, but consciousness is beyond these things.

Consciousness literally created time, universes and beings out of nothing, to it death is a part of the play.

[Member]

Experience of unconsciousness is possible just that it doesn't last forever.

Edited October 12, 2020 by Member

[Bulgarianspirit]

3 minutes ago, Member said:

Experience of unconsciousness is possible just that it isn't forever.

A theory if i might add, in that experience you aren't conscious of anything, aka you are conscious of nothing, so you don't remember..

Hell what is there to remember, in nothing, the answer is you can't remember it. 

Yet that experience is akin to deep sleep, or anesthesia.

When i was anesthetized due to surgery,

my "I" disappeared, then reappeared, it also felt like teleportation, as they had moved my bed.

It's a wacky feeling. You disappear and cease to be conscious of this body and this world, yet you are, you exist. I even had dreams where i realized i was out of body, my soul flying through tunnels being conscious of a void, so to me i always am, just sometimes i'm conscious of nothing.

Edited October 12, 2020 by Bulgarianspirit

[Member]

@Bulgarianspirit

Sure, you aren't conscious of anything but you can still experience unconsciousness. It's actually orgasmic. Just that like any orgasm it ends soon so it doesn't last forever. Unconsciousness without consciousness is nothing.

[peachboy]

2 minutes ago, Member said:

@Bulgarianspirit

Sure, you aren't conscious of anything but you can still experience unconsciousness. It's actually orgasmic. Just that like any orgasm it ends soon so it doesn't last forever. Unconsciousness without consciousness is nothing.

 

You cannot experience unconsciousness, as experience itself is implicit of consciousness.

Perhaps it's a lexicon issue, for one can experience an absence of things. But one cannot experience a lack of experience itself.

[Member]

1 minute ago, peachboy said:

You cannot experience unconsciousness, as experience itself is implicit of consciousness.

Perhaps it's a lexicon issue, for one can experience an absence of things. But one cannot experience a lack of experience itself.

Unconsciousness can be experienced, only that it's short... like a TV turning off.

Absence of everything (nothing) or everything can be seen on the same screen. Close your eyes and think about nothing... you will become nothing. Open your eyes and you become everything. It's all consciousness. Unconsciousness isn't separate from consciousness.

[peachboy]

3 minutes ago, Member said:

Unconsciousness can be experienced, only that it's short

Again, I feel a lexicon issue lol.

Un-consciousness is the absence of consciousness, not the absence of things. No-thing is the absence of things.

No-thing can certainly be experienced, but un-consciousness itself can never be experienced.

Experience and consciousness are the same.

Any perception of a shortness of an experienced un-consciousness is surely a delusion created after the fact by the finite mind, no less similar to the game the finite mind plays when adding a backstory to the missing time elapsed during deep sleep.

But it doesn't change anything: One cannot experience a lack of experience, and thus un-consciousness cannot be experienced by very definition.

All that remains is consciousness. Ad infinitum.

[Adamq8]

@Bulgarianspirit can confirm this aswell,  in higher states of consciousness it becomes so OBVIOUS why we believe in death, to keep the world and experience feeling real and that people and your self are real entities ? and I also got the feeling that it is better this way, GOD mode kinda breaks the game ? 

 

[Adamq8]

@peachboy +1

[peachboy]

5 hours ago, Dand said:

BUT that doesn't discredit a relative notion of unconsciousness which can exist and be experienced because it's relatively also conscious. Relative unconsciousness has infinite layers and you can be relatively unconscious whilst still having some form of consciousness. Of course because there's no end to these layers you can never fully be unconscious because Consciousness = Being.

 

Great point. Therefore a perfect statement would read:-

Absolute un-consciousness is absolutely impossible.