Why Do Labels Such As "sluts" And "womanizers" Exist?

[milosmajlo]

Recap: Guys have this so-called “approach anxiety” so when someone is not affected by anxiety and approaches girls in a very confident way therefore attracting a high number of them (dating, sex, etc) than he is perceived as Womanizer and is more VALUABLE around the men in society. Girls have “filter mechanism” and if that mechanism is weak, if they are not able to filter which guys are right for them, if they don’t know their own standards or worse (they don’ have any) then they end up sleeping with a lot of partners, as a result they are perceived as whores, and are less valuable. This is it. This applies to everything, almost every “street bum” can afford 2004 Chevrolet because it’s like 3K dollars, that car is not valuable, on the other hand not everyone can buy a Ferrari, that’s 200K+ dollars, you have to work hard for it, really earn it, that car is valuable, only a few can have it, not everyone can “ride” it. I personally try not to judge woman subjectively, but at least we all man should create our own standards, what do we want in women?

What do we tolerate?

How do we allow girls to interact towards us? 

What are our own true values?

[Ayla]

[MonikaBcn]

sooo, I´m the car and men are drivers... no man wants to share his car with others, right?

tell me milosmajlo, would you like to be compared to a car?

[Guest]

I even am the car. And the driver, and the passenger who tries to take over the wheel. For the car is my body, my higher self is the driver and the ego is the passenger who always tries to get in control. I don't think I would share my car with anyone else, but you can have the passenger if you want to

10 minutes ago, MonikaBcn said:

sooo, I´m the car and men are drivers... no man wants to share his car with others, right?

tell me milosmajlo, would you like to be compared to a car?

But milo of ourse I agree with you. Most men gave all their power away. They are desperate and have no standarts and no values. Don't be one of those men. Be a king who women must earn to be with.

Edited February 9, 2016 by The Alchemist

[milosmajlo]

@MonikaBcn You didn't get my point, I never said that women are cars and we as a men should treat them that way. I was just giving an example for what does it mean to be valuable vs invaluable according to my perspective.

 

[MonikaBcn]

Sorry, English is not my first language

[Keyblade Viking]

As Above so Below - There's a really great (and kinda horrible) reason for why things are the way they are.

I'm not sure I can explain it all, in fact it would take so long to write that I might do it when I'm in the mode but I'll leave you with that train of thought if anyone is ready to see it.

What is male and female in the mind, what is male and female in the material world (kinda) and how is that reflected in everything we do.
It's an incredibly large question but I might come back here later if I'm in a writing mode.

edit - btw, the car symbolism as just described is hilarious in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmEd_UeeIk&index=43&list=PLAzuNEPIFEpysV8i818Kz3dKcQ_WGJOVp

Edited February 9, 2016 by Keyblade Viking - Tobias

[Kimasxi]

On 9.02.2016 at 1:44 PM, milosmajlo said:

Of course, you're right this applies to everything and that we perceive sth as more valuable if we think it is a luxury commodity. But this is a delusion you want to live. 
Women are not luxury commodities!
We are Chevrolets, most of us are. And there is actually no point to pretend we are Ferrari.. Why? That's manipulation, that's not being our true selves. It's unfair towards men and unfair towards ourselves. If a woman wants to chase excitement in life but she does not do it only because society expects her to pretend to be Ferrari, she's just a people-pleaser. Catering to their expectations also brings a lot of stress, cause you must constantly prove everyone you're not a slut, while you are going to be called so for merely flirting with some guys, for expressing your sexuality, for the way you dress; you may be very lonely but it's enough you make cheeky jokes and you're perceived as potentially sluttish. So this is why it's bad for women.
Why it's bad for men, now:
basically, you want to live an illusion that your girlfriend is some kind of perfect angel who only wants you and does not even wonder how it is to kiss another guy. It is very selfish, like a child who wants to get a particular toy and throws a tantrum if he doesn't get exactly that. It's also unlikely you'll get the perfect woman. There might be Ferraris somewhere, but look, isn't it stupid to pressure all cars be Ferraris when we know they are not and that it'd just be an illusion. 

Also, this labelling concept ignores a very important aspect of being hard to get, which is sth spontaneous instead of intentional. You are going to be rejected if the woman thinks you suck compared to her. Similarly, SHE is going to be rejected for some  faults she has when confronted with an attractive guy who has options. That's normal. 
Now, there is a difference if she's had many low-value men and many high-value men, right? I think there is a difference. That's why celebrities are not that much shamed for their choices. 
Also, if being hard to get is unconscious (strictly related to what kind of man you deserve, aka your self-esteem), I don't see a reason to shame a woman who has had many low-value partners because she did not know (is it possible?) or had standards. She might have had low self-esteem so she behaved according to what seemed to fit her social status/value as a person, she might have lacked experience and not know there are some high-value guys (once, I used to think that men are "idiots" by nature, as if it was an inherent trait of  being a man ^^ Then I met a smart one; the gap of difference shocked me). So you actually want to shame women for being inexperienced, insecure and not self-actualised yet.

 

Edited February 10, 2016 by Kimasxi