What are the high conscious forms of entertainment?

[Rasheed]

What are the high conscious form(s) of entertainment?

Edited October 11, 2020 by Rasheed

[electroBeam]

this one is pretty good. 

[Rasheed]

5 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

this one is pretty good. 

???

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by Rasheed

[okulele]

Asking yourself what you would enjoy doing at that moment and quietly listening to what comes up  

[Gesundheit]

Entertainment is meant to be unconscious, it cannot be conscious, because otherwise it won't be entertaining anymore.

In terms of speed, quantity, and quality; high consciousness means slow, low quantity, and high quality experience. Unconsciousness means the opposite, i.e. fast, high quantity, and low quality experience. Each the high and low consciousness serves certain purposes. And they overlap at times, especially during the non-dual states, which makes it interesting to see how they manifests at different degrees of each.

Back to op; entertainment does not happen by being slow, empirical, and with the least possible number of stimulants. It happens by doing exactly the opposite. A cascade of stimulants is necessary to override the conscious mind and put it down into low consciousness modes. Then, from there, entertainment can happen, because one isn't aware enough to see the tricks played by the mind, simply due to being overwhelmed, and it's entertaining exactly because it turns off the conscious mind.

Edited October 11, 2020 by Gesundheit

[Thestarguitarist14]

@Gesundheit This is not true at all.  You are only focusing on mainstream entertainment.

[Gesundheit]

Just now, Thestarguitarist14 said:

@Gesundheit This is not true at all.  You are only focusing on mainstream entertainment.

I'm talking in general. Care to give a few examples of non-mainstream entertainment that is highly conscious?

[Member]

Listen to some high consciousness music and dance.

[Carl-Richard]

You meditate and then you go about your day. That is about as conscious you'll get. If something entertains you, that's high consciousness entertainment. Don't turn consciousness work into a crippling obsession.

[Thestarguitarist14]

5 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

I'm talking in general. Care to give a few examples of non-mainstream entertainment that is highly conscious?

Quentin Tarantino’s films (though he is mainstream)

Charlie Kaufman’s films 

Elliott Smith’s music 

certain anime shows like Neon Genesis Evangelion and Cowboy Bebop (though both are mainstream, but the vast majority of anime is very low conscious)

the mangas from Inio Asano

Paul Thomas Anderson’s films

[Quantum Toad]

A higher consciousness finds entertainment in all things.

Circumstances do not matter at all, state of being is all that matters.

[Rasheed]

5 hours ago, modmyth said:

@Rasheed  What are your goals from "entertainment"? (What are you looking for from your experience?)

To relax. To have pleasure. Entertainment basically...

[Gesundheit]

16 minutes ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

Quentin Tarantino’s films (though he is mainstream)

Charlie Kaufman’s films 

Elliott Smith’s music 

certain anime shows like Neon Genesis Evangelion and Cowboy Bebop (though both are mainstream, but the vast majority of anime is very low conscious)

the mangas from Inio Asano

Paul Thomas Anderson’s films

I just checked out Elliott Smith. Basically his song is about addiction, so I'll assume that most of his work is of similar nature. I wouldn't call it entertainment though. A 12 steps program is not an entertaining thing. And most importantly, you probably missed the entire point of my post, which is the definition of entertainment vs high consciousness. You seem to equate high consciousness with some sort of ideology that includes certain things and excludes others. But that'd only be your definition and it's not correct. If you want to, you can read my post again and discuss the definitions I provided.

[Thestarguitarist14]

12 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

I just checked out Elliott Smith. Basically his song is about addiction, so I'll assume that most of his work is of similar nature. I wouldn't call it entertainment though. A 12 steps program is not an entertaining thing. And most importantly, you probably missed the entire point of my post, which is the definition of entertainment vs high consciousness. You seem to equate high consciousness with some sort of ideology that includes certain things and excludes others. But that'd only be your definition and it's not correct. If you want to, you can read my post again and discuss the definitions I provided.

A lot of people make that misconception.  His songs are very complex.  He considered himself spiritual.  You have to really dissect what he is saying as he speaks about a ton of things.  I suggest listening to his songs Waltz 2, Fond Farewell, Can’t Make A Sound, King’s Crossing, Say Yes, Happiness, Twilight, Shooting Star and between the bars.  Is just work entertainment?  Yeah, why not?  His songs have been in movies like good Will Hunting and the Royal Tenebaums.  At the end of the day, he was a musician.  And a damn good one at that.

You are intellectualizing this far more than is necessary.  I am an artist (I make music, write and have acted and directed).  High consciousness art is all about actually having a message with what you are saying.  Going beyond artifice.  That’s it.

Edited October 11, 2020 by Thestarguitarist14

[Gesundheit]

@Thestarguitarist14 Oh sorry then. Now that you have mentioned your field of interest, there's clearly a higher chance of being biased on your side. Conflict of interest can blind people from seeing with clarity, and that's understandable. Anyway, I'll not comment anymore because it would be pointless.

[Thestarguitarist14]

3 minutes ago, Gesundheit said:

@Thestarguitarist14 Oh sorry then. Now that you have mentioned your field of interest, there's clearly a higher chance of being biased on your side. Conflict of interest can blind people from seeing with clarity, and that's understandable. Anyway, I'll not comment anymore because it would be pointless.

You are full of shit.  Just thought that you should know this.

[Gesundheit]

2 hours ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

You are full of shit.  

Tell me something I don't know, yo.

[Oliver Saavedra]

13 hours ago, electroBeam said:

this one is pretty good. 

HAHA I love this, loops and mind-twisting things (especially when mixed with comedy) are one of my favorite forms of entretainment.

Creation, learning, reflecting (or contemplating, however you like to call it), making new ideas, laughing, enjoying, playing, practicing are my favorites too.

If you enjoy what you do and it supports your growth in a healthy way it's fine, if it doesn't then be careful.
Any entretainment is fine until it becomes a distraction.

[lmfao]

@Rasheed none particularly imo. You can jump around from "lower pleasure" to "higher pleasure" in terms of choice of intoxicants, but the differences are superficial and you find yourself having the same problems over and over again. 

[Eph75]

Lower consciousness entertainment is feeding into the autonomous being probably or possibly without being aware of how and why it entertains you.

Higher consciousness entertainment moves away from the autonomous consumption of content to enjoy things from other perspectives, structures, interactions, implications and more. 

What the entertainment itself is matter less, the lower conscious individual can be entertained per his/her needs and the higher conscious individual can be entertained by other aspects, while both consuming "the same". 

Of course some forms of entertainment will become too crude to have entertaining value therein and the forms of entertainment is likely to shift along-side developmental growth. There is certainly a value in observating such crude entertainment and how it engages lower consciousness individuals and, if you like, you can call that higher consciousness entertainment if you will. It's just a matter of perspective.

The "what" is then litterally left to being whatever, and the "why" and even more interestingly the "how" becomes key.

Edited October 12, 2020 by Eph75