What I learned from Leo?

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This. Important. 

You can't debate cancers of the mind any more than you can debate a guy in a suicide vest.

 

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The Catch-22 of getting needs met

in Dating, Relationships, Sexuality

Posted yesterday at 07:06 AM · 

  On 10/9/2020 at 7:31 PM, Max_V said:

Not being able to meet a need yourself causes neediness for it to be met.

Welcome to life in a tribe/community -- where we all rely on each other to survive. Without cooperation all of us would be dead. That's what it means to be human. Cooperation is a delicate balancing act.

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Neediness repells people, and so in turn makes them not want to need your meets. And so I am left with this struggle of how to break out of this cycle.

You can cooperate with people without being overly needy. A lot of stuff you can handle yourself, but when it comes to getting a blowjob, well... that's where you cooperate 

The way to break out of the cycle is stop thinking about it and start taking action to develop abundance. You can get very experienced with girls such that you no longer feel needy. You can also do inner work to raise your confidence and self-esteem.

You're right. There's no substitute for socialization. Stop over-thinking and go out and talk to girls.

 

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  22 hours ago, Preety_India said:

Is there anything like a Silent Orange, where the Orange is not too aggressive in pursuit or boastful of their achievements?

Of course. That's mostly how Orange is.

Silent Orange is a scientist in a lab working on a vaccine for Covid or building the next rocketship to Mars. Or a doctor or a computer programmer putting in a solid day's work. Nothing flashy.

 

 

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How To Remember Trips?

in Meditation, Consciousness, Enlightenment, Spirituality

Posted 11 hours ago · 

Many understandings simply cannot be accessed from your current sober state of consciousness.

That is okay. The work here is two-fold:

1) You can still gain some insights which stick and can be remembers. Even if you lose 90%, you can still hold on to 10%, which is very significant.

2) You must work on raising your baseline state of consciousness. This is done through classic spiritual practices and also by deeply integrating and working to embody the lesson learned from psychedelics.

Psychedelics will transform you in subtle ways which are not necessary at the level of symbolic intellect or memory. You don't have to remember a trip to have it grow you. If you trip a lot, each trip will shift up your baseline by like 1%. After a hundred trips, it adds up. It's hard for me to go a day without noticing the Godness that is myself

 

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How to stop being anxious about not knowing

in Self-Actualization

Posted 13 hours ago · 

Take a psychedelic and chill the fuck out. You need to discover BEING vs doing.

Spirituality is about learning to let go and relax.

P.S. But you're absolutely right that "there is something about life that I haven’t figured out yet". Your ego-mind is nudging your towards God.

 

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For the Conscious, Politics is irrelevant

in Society, Environment, Government, Politics

Posted 14 hours ago · 

It's far too simplistic and self-centered of an attitude.

Humans are a social species. You cannot ignore the collective aspects of consciousness work. And all religion and spiritual groups always bump up against political problems.

Of course you can choose to stick your head in the sand focus solely on your own enlightenment, but that's a rather limited version of spirituality. It lacks what Ken Wilber would call the "We" quadrant

 

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Mainstream society’s war on supplements in Germany

in Health, Fitness, Nutrition

Posted 19 hours ago · 

Supplements ain't going anywhere.

You can't even ban cocaine or meth effectively, let along supplements.

The mainstream scientific and medical establishment can be very conservative and closedminded about alternative health issues.

But if you ever get truly sick, supplements could save your life.

Don't forget, life expectancy of people for 99.99999% of history was something like 35. Not to mention all the needless suffering.

And also, every culture has had medicine men as a revered and important role/profession for at least 100,000 years. What is a medicine man but a supplement dealer? Think about it.

Even animals will eat herbs when they get sick. Even animals use supplements.

Making arguments based on what is "natural" is dumb. We live in a highly unnatural world these days. Every gallon of water you drink is filled with mercury, lead, and 100 other toxic chemicals.

 

 

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Is it possible to change your personality from shy to outgoing and confident?

in Self-Actualization

Posted 19 hours ago · 

It depends on how you define "personality".

If you define shyness and insecurity and inexperience as part of your personality, then yes, you can change that.

But there will always be an deeper, more fundamental personality which you cannot change. But that personality is not inherently shy.

Don't worry about these philosophical issues. Simply go get massive experience socializing and that will fix many of your problems until your question melts away.

I used to be extremely shy and socially insecure, to the point of not being able to have a conversation with a taxi driver or hair stylist or grocery store clerk.

 

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Leo's toxic rhetoric and an inner conflict

in Self-Actualization

Posted 19 hours ago · 

Also, consider this:

I deliberately try not to act saintly because that is what makes students worship the teacher and leads to all sorts of unrealistic expectations. You see, if you discover that Ekhart Tolle watched some porn, this would outrage and disgust you because in his public persona he presents this image of a saintly figure. You probably can't even imagine Ekhart Tolle having sex. This entire stereotype is damaging and absurd. Ekhart Tolle's audience would be better served if he said FUCK! once in a while.

The trap is that as a spiritual student to go looking for ever-more saintlier teachers to validate your naive ideas about this work. And once you find this saintliest teacher, he feels so beyond you, so super-human, that you can't help but worship him and believe his every word. And later you discover that he eats meat, has sex, looks at porn, drinks wine, makes mistakes, supports centrist capitalist politicians, avoids paying taxes, hunts animals, kills a fly, gets a divorce, has sex with a hooker in Thailand, gets angry, or whatever else, and your whole fantasy about gurus collapses.

This work is not about acting saintly. It would be best if you dropped this expectation of saintliness. Saintliness is precisely what creates cult followings.

P.S. Your revered guru Alan Watts drank himself to death and you can't handle Leo enjoying some porn? I could easily not mention my enjoyment of porn to you, and then you would think I am 50% more saintly. I could further boost my saintliness by 100% by never saying FUCK any more. Ekhart Tolle drinks wine. I don't even drink. So HA!

Don't forget that your expectations for my behavior are largely your own fantasy, and I have no obligation play into your fantasy of how conscious people should behave. My only obligation is to not exploit you, not abuse you, and not mislead you into delusion. But if I want to watch some porn, then I will and you'll just have to go cry in the corner I guess.

 

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Leo's toxic rhetoric and an inner conflict

in Self-Actualization

Posted 20 hours ago · 

  21 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

they're sorta the byproduct of the system too right? like it's the system's collective responsibility almost for the cop ?

It's a two-way street. Individuals create the system, but the system creates the individuals.

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i'm thinking of like pedophiles... who were abused and are repeating their childhood trauma by parents who didn't have proper emotional support

I don't think that's an accurate characterization of pedophiles. They were not necessarily emotionally abused. They might simply only be turned on by young people. There isn't necessarily anything "wrong" with them, any more than you being turned on by whatever you are turned on by

 

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Matthew Santoro comment on Leo’s New video lol

in Self-Actualization

 

Posted 20 hours ago · 

 

  22 hours ago, electroBeam said:

I'm pretty sure if you went into the 60s and asked the common public whether the statement "Nixon banned psychedelics to demonise blacks and hippies" is a conspiracy theory, most would say yes. 

 

Perhaps so, but that does not excuse conspiratorial theorizing.

 

The most common way that conspiracy theorists justify their BS speculations is by citing some case in the past where something crazy came true. Then their mind takes that as license to speculate wildly and in a paranoid manner about everything under the sun.

 

The nature of reality is such that there's a lot of stuff we don't know. But that is not license to feed all your ego's selfish fears and suspicions

 

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Psychedelics are a gateway which show you the work you need to be doing outside of psychedelics.

 

Put the down the LSD and get to working fixing all the shit that LSD brought to your attention.

 

 

 

Edited October 16, 2020 by Preety_India

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Idk if this will also work for you but what helped me on my journey is making goal setting system like this:

1. I make a list of my goals valued from least to greatest. 

2. Once I have my list of goals, I choose however many I want to pursue by putting time and energy toward that goal on a daily basis. (Visualizing in detail what achieving your goal will look like in your life with all 5 senses can be a great positive motivator as well).

3. Then once I have my schedule with times set to it, I let go of being perfect with it and accept: "If I get 0 things done its ok I did what I could. If I got 1 of

the things done I'm satisfied, If I get 50 percent of them done I'm very happy, and if I get 100 percent of my schedule done I completely aced the day

and I did amazing. I'll even do something to celebrate!

 

I find this mentality a lot more motivating because it takes the pressure off of me. It makes me know that I will be happy however much work I get done

and getting more done will just add to the happiness. When I use this system rather than pressuring myself to be perfect every time, I usually was more

productive and happy in the end.

 

 

 

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Edited October 16, 2020 by Preety_India

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I take criticism all day long for 8 years.

 

I don't debate people because debate is a stupid ego game. If you want results, do the work. Or don't and then you can whine instead.

 

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Edited October 16, 2020 by Preety_India

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Love this reply from Leo. 

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You have to build a steelman of feminism in your mind before you attempt to deconstruct it.

What is the genuine good intent behind feminism? What is the spirit of feminism? That's what you should contemplate deeply and grasp. Once you grasp that, then you can do some deconstruction and critique of its excesses, keeping in mind that nearly all social movements have excesses. If you don't like the excesses of feminism how about the excesses of toxic masculinity and patriarchy? Don't just conveniently forget about those.

Make a distinction between criticizing feminism from below vs from above. The kind of stuff JP does is from below. He has not integrated it properly and is therefore reacting against his own shadow on behalf of his fan base.

Basically, notice when you are reacting to shit like an animal, and stop it.

 

 

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Thank you for this answer. It helps me understand meta construction and deconstruction. 

This should be an important aspect of shadow work. 

It also means being more nuanced which I generally lack. 

Like you explained in content versus structure meta thinking video. 

 

 

Edited May 2, 2021 by Preety_India

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Another beautiful comeback. 

 

Again, why are you so insecure that you begrudge treating women a bit better?

Whatever you say, it always comes back to that.

It's just pettiness. If you were secure you would not mind if women were treated a bit better. Ironically you've weaponized "equality" as an extension of your insecurity and smallness.

When a secure person gets overcharged 5 cents, he lets it go. When an insecure person gets overcharged 5 cents, he starts a crusade for "fairness".

 

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Another beautiful response from leo

 

All Goodness in life hinges on exquisite balance. This is true of change and not-change alike. Too much change is dangerous and so is too little. How do you tell exactly how much change is best? Through consciousness and selflessness. The more conscious you are, the more selfless you are, the more exquisitely intelligent your balance becomes.

Everything I say requires a deep, organic conscious intelligence. Otherwise it becomes evil.

God is infinitely intelligent balance. The whole Universe is balanced on the thinest razer's edge.