Being our own sun

[Superfluo]

Hi there.

Since I started self-actualizing I always kept going forward so that I could overcome my problems and obstacles. In doing so, I navigated the self-actualizing journey using happiness and joy as my north star. I loved the idea that we could be our own sun, shining love and joy from within and sharing my gifts to the world, withouth "mud" or "dirt" covering us.

I undertook the healing journey, and I made huge progress, but I sense that I'm still far away from being my own sun. And sometimes I think: "Is there a reaching point?". Of course not, I answered myself. I understand that the self-actualizing journey is never ending, and that infinite is infinite, it has no end.

But then, when I'm intimate with women, mainly sexually, I feel that I'm a lot more of my own sun. And of course, that's the main purpose of sexuality I guess. If that wasn't the case people would not reproduce and it is a domain where you can show all of you.

But is there a way to be our own suns that doesn't deal with sexuality? I know this question may seem similar to other questions on the forum about meeting our need on our own, but it's not the same in my mind. I'm not talking about simply filling a need and/or outgrowing it, I'm talking how to be so radiant that you emanate joy and love (and filling needs is a baseline to do that).

And I'm not asking this to avoid being sexual, just to reorient myself and understand better human psyche and my trajectory.

Is spirituality the journey I'm describing? Or can I come increasingly closer to that state withouth having to trascend the material world?

[Seraphim]

Absolutely! That's why for example Buddhist monks are okay with their simple lifestyle, they don't need entertainment because the joy and happiness coming from within is immense.

I once met someone who had an aura/energy that was like the sun. Not just happiness but also inner power and energy that affected everyone near him in a good way. Humans have a great potential, reach that state!

 

Edited October 10, 2020 by Seraphim

[aurum]

5 hours ago, Superfluo said:

Is spirituality the journey I'm describing?

It is. Love and joy, these are what you are. Spirituality is discovering that.

5 hours ago, Superfluo said:

Or can I come increasingly closer to that state withouth having to trascend the material world?

You don't transcend the material world. The spiritual world and material world are revealed to be the same

[Superfluo]

@Seraphim

12 hours ago, Seraphim said:

I once met someone who had an aura/energy that was like the sun. Not just happiness but also inner power and energy that affected everyone near him in a good way.

That's what I'm looking for! Thank you

@aurum

8 hours ago, aurum said:

The spiritual world and material world are revealed to be the same

Yes, I forgot that, thank you 

[Nahm]

 

 

18 hours ago, Superfluo said:

Hi there.

Since I started self-actualizing I always kept going forward so that I could overcome my problems and obstacles. In doing so, I navigated the self-actualizing journey using happiness and joy as my north star. I loved the idea that we could be our own sun, shining love and joy from within and sharing my gifts to the world, withouth "mud" or "dirt" covering us.

I undertook the healing journey, and I made huge progress, but I sense that I'm still far away from being my own sun. And sometimes I think: "Is there a reaching point?". Of course not, I answered myself. I understand that the self-actualizing journey is never ending, and that infinite is infinite, it has no end.

Happiness, joy, and I would add desire. Not for or in attachment for things, but the visceral aliveness enthusiasm & exhilaration of the knowing you are creating as you go. As such, there are no problems or obstacles, unless it is created now to be the case.  

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But then, when I'm intimate with women, mainly sexually, I feel that I'm a lot more of my own sun. And of course, that's the main purpose of sexuality I guess. If that wasn't the case people would not reproduce and it is a domain where you can show all of you.

But is there a way to be our own suns that doesn't deal with sexuality?

Sexuality is the desire. It feels great, as in one is lost in it, all focus is upon the now moment and creating of it, though even this thinking as well as thinking about a “me” in time with problems, a fictional measuring stick as to where I should be in my life, etc, etc, are not being recreated. 

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I know this question may seem similar to other questions on the forum about meeting our need on our own, but it's not the same in my mind. I'm not talking about simply filling a need and/or outgrowing it, I'm talking how to be so radiant that you emanate joy and love (and filling needs is a baseline to do that).

And I'm not asking this to avoid being sexual, just to reorient myself and understand better human psyche and my trajectory.

Is spirituality the journey I'm describing? Or can I come increasingly closer to that state withouth having to trascend the material world?

The aliveness of desire is creator-creating-creation and is ever present. Past, future, me, are resistant thoughts to the actuality. The greatest feeling is being, not sexual stimulation...there is no actual difference, sans the believing of thoughts that there is. The sensations, sexually speaking, like that of an orgasm, are created via the apparent limitation of what you really are...always...Being. To be so radiant that you are emanating joy and love is simply to be you, or simply, to be. There is no material world to transcend, there are no states, there is only to notice the re-appearing of those thoughts, and the perpetuating of the belief in them, and the material identity it intrinsically weaves. Spirituality does sound like the journey you’re describing, in the sense you are asking questions, inspecting, oriented to what is actual and true. That you are creating reality is a much bigger picture, richer experience, and blissful actuality, than anything (including sex) therein. 

[Superfluo]

@Nahm

You made my intuition shiver ahahah. So the goal is the present moment/Being? It makes sense. But some time ago I experienced a glimpse of the present moment as described by Eckhart Tolle, and it was drier and colder than the sensation of warm and power I get from being intimate.

[Nahm]

@Superfluo

That’s awesome.  The present moment / being, is already the present moment, or, being. It’s a self evident miracle. If it’s thought of as a goal, that implies a thought you’re other than the present moment being, or other than.... Being; the present moment. Such a thought has it’s root in a misinterpretation of feeling and is felt and can be inspected whenever it appears, and as such will be ‘untangled’ and feeling & thought effortlessly realigned. The present moment as a goal is nonsense. No offense, I don’t mean you are nonsense, or nonsensical, like “dumb”, or “illogical”, etc. I don’t mean anything like that. I mean the present moment is the very source of sense, as in sensation, as in feeling. The present moment is also your creation. Say it is dry and cold, and it indeed seems so...except, there is still that little bitty suffering to be heard and untangled there. 

Sometimes when we look to the actuality of the present moment, we experience a barrier or two we have put in place in pure innocence. The barrier can be experienced as ‘drier’ and ‘colder’...precisely because of the relativity to the source of ‘itself’, the source of the thought, or misunderstanding, or misidentification. To assign the quality, or experience of the barrier to the source, is to create an obstacle, to create another barrier. To scrutinize the barrier and recognize the thought, belief or perspective is what is not resonating, is the barrier, is to then see through, feel through, re-connect through the the absence of the barrier. 

You might expand the notion, or idea of what it is to be intimate, such that the thought of it pops like a ballon of feeling. It would not be uncommon, or “wrong” in any way, to assign intimacy to the experience of sex. Yet there is an infinity of intimacy within you, in “every” “present moment”, a most intimate, a most ‘real’ relationship, a truly real experience...indeed a superfluo.

[Superfluo]

Mhm I think I got it, thanks.