Why is eating meat "bad" or less evolved lets say?

[Intraplanetary]

14 hours ago, datamonster said:

Please describe how to raise and kill an animal ethically.

Allowing animals to live on pasture as part of natural environmental cycles. And killing them quickly.

For example, hunters shoot wild animals to the heart. It's very quick death and least painless. Slaughterhouses should be designed in such a way that causes the lease stress to animals.

I know many farms that practise regenerative agriculture. In one of them in the UK, It even restored the lost species!! because it helped to restore the fertility of the soil, flora and fauna. 

Vegans only consider a small handful of animals (cows, pigs, goats chickens) while at the same time they exclude hundreds if not thousands of others. It amazes me still how people don't see their myopic view on the issue. 

Veganism is based on so much emotion and it becomes an attachment. Why their hearts don't bleed about other things such as not so cute small animals or people who suffer from autoimmune disease and can't eat fibre, etc, etc it appears very very biased. 

But I don't judge. It's normal to be stuck in one worldview and claim is the best way. 

[smurf88]

I had a dream that the most nutritious and healthful protein supplements that humans can buy were being produced directly from an extract of animal tears.

So, I think that sums up my views on the subject.

[integral]

@datamonster

20 hours ago, integral said:

@datamonster Curios of a different topic, what do you believe causes green to transition to yellow? 

 

[Claymoree]

1 hour ago, datamonster said:

Let's apply this reasoning to a slightly different situation.

Imagine I go on a date with a nice girl. I take her to a fancy restaurant and we're having a great time.

After dinner we go to my place and I put a couple of knockout drops in her drink.

She passes out and I rape her.

It's very quick. She has had a great night. She doesn't feel or remember anything.

Is this ethical?

Ethical or not is for you to decide, one for sure, she dos not suffer, as she does not remember. 

 

Edited October 23, 2020 by Claymoree

[Intraplanetary]

1 hour ago, datamonster said:

Let's apply this reasoning to a slightly different situation.

Imagine I go on a date with a nice girl. I take her to a fancy restaurant and we're having a great time.

After dinner we go to my place and I put a couple of knockout drops in her drink.

She passes out and I rape her.

It's very quick. She has had a great night. She doesn't feel or remember anything.

Is this ethical?

 You're freaking bonkers. You sound super childish like a teenage boy who doesn't know life and coming with some weird ass examples  

sorry no offence but I'm here giving you realistic alternatives about animal welfare and you're thinking about raping a girl  

[Intraplanetary]

6 minutes ago, datamonster said:

Interesting. When the victim is replaced by a human your own ethical standards no longer apply...

You said killing and exploiting an animal is ethical when it's done quickly and painlessly.

I ask, why is it "weird ass" when we apply the same logic to a human?

You get mad at me for pointing out your double standard. Defense mechanism: Attack the messenger!

I'm not attacking, I'm laughing  You don't have good enough point to be taken seriously anyway 
We need to have optimal health, hence yes we need meat. If you want barely survive good luck eating plant foods

Edited October 23, 2020 by Intraplanetary

[integral]

@datamonster When you can explain exactly what causes greens transition to yellow, you will have graduated adolescence. 

 

Edited October 23, 2020 by integral

[Intraplanetary]

27 minutes ago, datamonster said:

Meat is certainly not unhealthy in moderation. However, as we've established earlier, the perspective that eating only meat is optimal and that plant foods are bad is unscientific.

I never said that eating plants is bad. It's good for many people as much as animal-based products. Everyone is different and I don't judge anyone for their choice. 
From the Absolute perspective, there are no hierarchies. All creation is as God as it gets, but in the world, we definitely have hierarchies and as the apex creatures we get to make our own rules for living and thriving. We also need balance and complexity, not black and white thinking or judging one another.

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27 minutes ago, datamonster said:

Yep. But I am the childish one here...

 

Sorry, I didn't want to offend you. Of course, I don't know you. But you coming up with the examples as raping a girl in the context of talking about animal welfare it really is a weird ass thing   

Too much drama, too much biased emotion 
 

Edited October 23, 2020 by Intraplanetary

[Yog]

This guy in the timestamp explains it all