Facebook Bans All QAnnon!

[BlackPhil]

20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You can't debate cancers of the mind any more than you can debate a guy in a suicide vest.

True. Censoring them is turning them into martyrs for free though, without them even needing the suicide vests.

Edited October 11, 2020 by BlackPhil

[Apparition of Jack]

8 hours ago, BlackPhil said:

True. Censoring them is turning them into martyrs for free though, without them even needing the suicide vests.

At some point you have to ask yourself is letting their ideas to fester unabated just in order to prevent maybe a handful of people seeing them as "matyrs" really worth it though? When a social cancer like QAnon grows big enough to warrant ending, the long-term gain of cutting it out beats the short-term pain of a few looneys seeing themselves as matyrs IMO. Plus frankly, that's still on them. No government or agency has a responsibility to let criminals continue their illegal activity just because stopping that might cause a backlash.

Look at Alex Jones' banning from YouTube. For a while people were saying he's being censored, but now who still cares? Probably only a handful of die-hard loyalists. For everyone else though, his ideas have stopped spreading, which is a net positive.

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, BlackPhil said:

True. Censoring them is turning them into martyrs

Boo-hoo

No one cares about these "martyrs".

[DrewNows]

On 10/10/2020 at 10:01 PM, Leo Gura said:

Let's give QAnnon a kiss. Maybe that'll cure 'em.

Don’t forget to mask up  

[Preety_India]

41 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

Don’t forget to mask up  

I forgot. You came late. Pfft. Now who's gonna save me from Covid. 

 

[Lyubov]

12 hours ago, BlackPhil said:

True. Censoring them is turning them into martyrs for free though, without them even needing the suicide vests.

deplatforming has been shown to work

[Dryas]

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54509975

[Lyubov]

 

 

Edited October 12, 2020 by Lyubov

[Lyubov]

Sooo Zuck is sort of moving away from libertarian free speech 

[Leo Gura]

There never was any free speech.

Perpetuating this myth of free speech is silly.

[Apparition of Jack]

6 hours ago, Lyubov said:

Sooo Zuck is sort of moving away from libertarian free speech 

Zuck is feelin the pressure 

[No Self]

I'm just waiting for the "But who says there was a Holocaust? Where's your proof that the Jews aren't lizard people? Stop being so gullible and believing the lamestream media" comments. 

[DrewNows]

28 minutes ago, No Self said:

I'm just waiting for the "But who says there was a Holocaust? Where's your proof that the Jews aren't lizard people? Stop being so gullible and believing the lamestream media" comments. 

Those who know don’t speak, those who speak don’t know, at least that’s how the story goes  

Edited October 13, 2020 by DrewNows

[Leo Gura]

What people don't appreciate is that society has ALWAYS coerced minds into what they are and are not allowed to think. This is nothing new. Because thoughts can be very dangerous. Allowing a true free-flow of thoughts is as dangerous as allowing free-flow of rocket launchers. Hence society has always and will always coerce thought. That is one of society's top functions. Society sets the parameters of legitimate discourse. And of course all these parameters are relative, biased, and selfish -- because they are designed to serve survival, not truth.

Facebook is not under pressure for truth, it is under pressure for survival.

[Preety_India]

@Leo Gura the mind itself is sooooo dangerous tbh. 

 

[DrewNows]

26 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

@Leo Gura the mind itself is sooooo dangerous tbh. 

 

It is a function, limited by nature, like all societies and platforms, learn to use and get used for empowerment

the mind makes survival personal but it is not, it is mis-understood 

[Preety_India]

@DrewNows Drew always knows. 

 

[Lyubov]

37 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What people don't appreciate is that society has ALWAYS coerced minds into what they are and are not allowed to think. This is nothing new. Because thoughts can be very dangerous. Allowing a true free-flow of thoughts is as dangerous as allowing free-flow of rocket launchers. Hence society has always and will always coerce thought. That is one of society's top functions. Society sets the parameters of legitimate discourse. And of course all these parameters are relative, biased, and selfish -- because they are designed to serve survival, not truth.

Facebook is not under pressure for truth, it is under pressure for survival.

For sure, but there are parameters which are more conscious and serve truth better than others. The equivalent would be a society that allows street lynchings vs one that doesn't. One environment will allow for more people to discover truth than others. I would say Facebooks step here is small but it is in the right direction in terms of raising the consciousness of society. 

[DrewNows]

1 minute ago, Preety_India said:

@DrewNows Drew always knows. 

 

Knows no bounds  ?

always appreciate your kindness ?

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

but there are parameters which are more conscious and serve truth better than others.

Sure. Or rather, they serve survival better than others.