Isn't Pickup Unconscious?

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Maybe that's what I should do. 

Sleep with an Incel. 

That's the solution.

Haha

In practice what most women do is this:

They spend their teens and 20s sleeping around with the hottest, most high-value guys they can find. But since these guys are high value, they tend to be players who leverage their value and won't commit, or are abusive narcissistic assholes. So eventually by the time you hit your 30s you learn your lesson and lower your standards to guys who are less players, but also less attractive and you find some comfortable compromise position with such a guy and you two settle down.

Then you get divorced.

This is a tale as old as mankind itself. Nothing at all surprising about it. This is the game. The game is happening whether you know it or not, whether you want it or not.

The only way out of the game is not be alone and not have sex. If you're going to play the game, you're gonna suffer its inherent limitations. There is no free lunch in the relative world. Sex and relationships have a high cost. Which is why monks and yogis avoid them entirely.

[Leo Gura]

Don't forget that guys with serious game are like 2% of the population.

So if you don't want a player, you can easily avoid them. As long as you can keep your legs closed for them

The thing about players is.... you want to open your legs for them real bad. That's what makes them a player.

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

I've heard this from red pillers before. They called it the 20's cock carousel.

Didn't expect you to retake that theory. 

Are you seriously going to deny that hot women in their 20's sleep around?

Come on.

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, datamonster said:

Or just have a happy and fulfilling relationship. I've been with my girl for 7 years almost throughout my entire 20s. I still love her and don't need to have sex with random girls like a monkey.

But you're still playing the game.

Being in a long-term relationship is still playing the game. It's only a matter of time.

I never said you need to have sex with random girls like a monkey. That's your strawman of what I said.

[Leo Gura]

You have to understand that if your standards for your sexual partner are very modest, then you should have little problem finding a partner.

This very much hinges on how high your standards are. The higher your standards the more work it takes and the more precarious it is.

If you have high standards it is like trying to balance a knife on its point.

If you are okay with loving any random dude, then that's easy. But also be careful what you wish for. Don't expect him to be all self-actualized for you. Expect him to be a broke, beer-guzzling, sexist, racist fool. Cause that's what a random dude is. And he will probably have anger issues which he will take out on you.

If you want a highly conscious guy who has done a ton of work on himself, what are you willing to give in return?

[Preety_India]

 

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Don't forget that guys with serious game are like 2% of the population.

So if you don't want a player, you can easily avoid them. As long as you can keep your legs closed for them

The thing about players is.... you want to open your legs for them real bad. That's what makes them a player.

Why should I control my attraction to a man who I find charming? 

But does this mean that this bait should ruin me? 

This is almost like saying that a man deserves his bank looted if he wants a beautiful woman!!! He should be happy with a golddigger. But he didn't expect that. 

That's like a cruel thing. 

So if I find a player attractive, I should sleep with him and also deal with the consequences 

Gotcha. 

 

 

[Enlightenment]

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[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, datamonster said:

Are you saying that it's only a matter of time until we inevitably separate? 

Of course. Is this not obvious?

7 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Why should I control my attraction to a man who I find charming? 

And why should a man not grope a woman's tits he finds attractive?

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But does this mean that this bait should ruin me?

See groping of tits example above.

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This is almost like saying that a man deserves his bank looted if he wants a beautiful woman!!! He should be happy with a golddigger. But he didn't expect that. 

If a man has no other value than money, then yes, a lame man with lots of money who wants a supermodel girlfriend should expect his bank looted.

You must bring value to the negotiating table, be that money, looks, humor, charm, fame, status, friends, house, car, diamonds, great sex, or whatever.

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That's like a cruel thing. 

Survival is cruel.

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So if I find a player attractive, I should sleep with him and also deal with the consequences 

Gotcha.

That's totally up to you. You don't have to sleep with anyone. But if you sleep with Brad Pitt, you should understand the consequences. Brad Pitt is not gonna be loyal to you, sorry. Not unless you are a supermodel. And maybe not even then. Cause he's Brad fucking Pitt.

[Preety_India]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

That's totally up to you. You don't have to sleep with anyone. But if you sleep with Brad Pitt, you should understand the consequences.

Well the best solution is to sleep with an incel. No bad consequences for that. 

Better sleep with a low quality man than get your heart broken by a high quality man. 

It's not worth it. 

 

[Leo Gura]

22 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

But Leoooo, there is a world between that theory and the fact that women sleep with some guys in their 20s. 

I didn't bring up the cock carousel theory. You did.

I was talking about women who sleep with some guys.

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If I'd give you the number of guy I slept with during my 20s, you would not believe it as the number is ridiculously low. And I had options .

You're right, I would not believe it because you ladies love to not count all the guys you sleep with. You ain't fooling Leo with your coyness. I know how dirty you are inside

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I just kept my vajajay as something only opening to the worthy. 

I bet you've opened it to some unworthy

It's okay. I won't judge.

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But of course, I know some women (and maybe hotter ones) who have been sleeping with more guys than I do, and some as per the described pattern. Most do not feel that theory though.

It depends on the girl of course. Most guys aren't player either. I was talking about high value guys and girls who have high standards for sexual attraction.

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And don't forget that teens and very early 20s women are for most of them totally unconscious girls and women. It's normal that they act as per survival and unconscious chimp pattern. 

Of course!

Now apply that same logic to guys in their 20s doing pickup.

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Love on the other hand isn't necessarily going as per a survival agenda. You teach it very well, usually .

Don't confuse romantic love with God's Love. These are very different things.

20 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Well the best solution is to sleep with an incel. No bad consequences for that.

Be careful what you wish for.

Have you visited an Incel forum?

You really want to be in a relationship with one of them:

https://incels.co/forums/inceldom-discussion.2/

That incel boyfriend will make your pussy dry as a bone.

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, Yali said:

@Leo Gura

Why is survival so crude ?

Well, if you don't like it, stop surviving.

Survival is falsehood, so of course it will always disappoint. Which is why the wise seek God/Truth/Love.

[Preety_India]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You really want to be in a relationship with one of them:

https://incels.co/forums/inceldom-discussion.2/

That incel boyfriend will make your pussy dry as a bone.

I have never dated an incel. 

Ahh, I see what you mean. 

I have dated mostly hot men. But not because of their hotness. Hahaha. I must be lying. 

 

[Leo Gura]

@Preety_India What you really want is a player who will fall head over heels in love with only you.

And I want to bang a new supermodel every night.

The difference is, I understand the selfishness of my position.

[Yali]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, if you don't like it, stop surviving.

Survival is falsehood, so of course it will always disappoint. Which is why the wise seek God/Truth/Love.

@Leo Gura

God should be able to do better

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Yali said:

@Leo Gura

God should be able to do better

You are God. So do better.

You're welcome to be more God-like

[Yali]

@Leo Gura 

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You're welcome to be more God-like

My compulsions control me.

 

 

Edited October 6, 2020 by Yali

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Yali said:

@Leo Gura 

My compulsions control me.

God understands.

[Preety_India]

 

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Preety_India What you really want is a player who will fall head over heels in love with only you.

And I want to bang a new supermodel every night.

The difference is, I understand the selfishness of my position.

The difference is, your selfishness is fulfilled. 

Mine is not.

 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

The difference is, your selfishness is fulfilled.

Haha! You have me confused with Leonardo De Caprio.

I am but a humble YouTuber.

[Shunyata]

@Leo Gura is it true that all men have the same desire?