Praise for Leo's Conspiracy Video

[Dryas]

1 minute ago, Rilles said:

The funniest thing is when people say "This was too far Leo, gotta unsubscribe now"

 

Translation "Hey, Leo, your opinion isnt the same as mine, therefore Im not gonna listen to you anymore"

It really shows you where alot of people are coming from. 

Yea, but, also like, he literally opens up the video calling conspiracy theorists stupid. That was pretty funny to me, but I can imagine a lot of people getting offended at that.

[Michael569]

11 minutes ago, Rilles said:

The funniest thing is when people say "This was too far Leo, gotta unsubscribe now"

 

Translation "Hey, Leo, your opinion isnt the same as mine, therefore Im not gonna listen to you anymore"

It really shows you where alot of people are coming from. 

it's called a Funnel and you want people like that to leak out, they are not the audience and it was not meant for them. 

[Godhead]

11 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

P.S. Cultural Marxism actually existed long before the cold war with the Nazis, it was originally titled 'Judeo Bolshevisms'

Finnland doesn't exist. I knew it.

[Rilles]

8 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

it's called a Funnel and you want people like that to leak out, they are not the audience and it was not meant for them. 

I agree, not to sound cultish, but some people just arent mature enough to follow Actualized lol. They will show themselves the exit. 

Edited October 5, 2020 by Rilles

[Rilles]

Sorry for double post. 

[Persipnei]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You'd have to be crazy like a fox to sit through an entire one of my videos.

I think there are way more crazy foxes than you think...

And although I was one of the apes that commented under the YT vid AFTER looking through the whole thing, in another thread I explained that it was a fear of scaring people away from the real message. On a certain level, where lots of people are currently functioning under, there is a big conspiracy. I'm not saying there is nor that there isn't, but lots of people at least partially identify with them. Having a great message about illusion going to waste for so many potential listeners by scaring them away at the beginning of the video by attacking their identification was not a smart move in my eyes, but to each his methods.

I'd like to invite you to try to understand these people. Yes, there are a lot of nutcases, but there are some genuine seekers who are just lost. We all are, some more lost than others. To collectively call everybody who has annoying questions about society a nutcase is not a sign of greatness. We need important questions to be asked, especially in times where propaganda and censorship are rampant, at least on this level of reality. Unless off course you say: let's go straight enlightenment, no more maya, but then there is nothing more to discuss, is there?

[Consept]

1 hour ago, Dryas said:

Yea, but, also like, he literally opens up the video calling conspiracy theorists stupid. That was pretty funny to me, but I can imagine a lot of people getting offended at that.

I like that he did that, if the viewers offended then they need to look at why and what they're holding on to. If I know something is relatively true like the empire state building exists and someone comes along and says no it doesn't exist, I wouldn't be offended, I either wouldn't care or will think the person is kinda crazy or funny. The fact that people get so offended and defensive when it comes to conspiracies is almost proof that they at least, don't really believe them deep down 

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

17 hours ago, Adam M said:

My girlfriend is especially angry with you. Great work!

[Jacobsrw]

19 hours ago, Adam M said:

This is such an ideologically charged topic!

The oceans of self-righteous commenters under Leo's video trying to prove him wrong are ironically proving him right.

Kudos you to Leo! You've made an excellent structural analysis of the situation and I've been waiting for this for a long time.

Of course, there are parts of the video where I may disagree with the content, overall the structure is ??.

At the beginning of the video I was like "oh boy, Leo's about to dig himself into a hole."

But, you ended up making a beautiful analysis that strikes right at the heart of the problem and is sure to stir up TONS of backlash. Many egos have built their worldviews using conspiracy theories as a basis and this video is sure to cause them to demonize you.

My girlfriend is especially angry with you. Great work!

Agreed. I myself am yet to finish watching it but can already tell it will conclude as a gem.

Ironically, the biggest conspiracy is the human capacity to create conspiracies = the mind.

Specific details of a conspiracy theory may have some validity but the infrastructural frameworks from which it stems often does not - those usually being fear and insatiability. Really the core problem is not what a conspiracy theory pontificates about but rather the fallacious way in which it creates the very thing it critiques the mainstream of doing. It by default creates but another mainstream narrative that adopts the minds of those in opposition to it. So the same ideological thinking which seeks to avoid the mainstream media inadvertently constructs itself anew in the conspiratorial narrative. It’s irony so patently clear.

 

Edited October 5, 2020 by Jacobsrw

[Enlightenment]

3 hours ago, neutralempty said:

@Enlightenment What about stupid and close-minded?

They're not watching Leo's content either 

[Enlightenment]

55 minutes ago, neutralempty said:

According to that open-mindedness is the driving force for most of Leo's viewers. 

All of Leo's regular viewers are at least somewhat open-minded otherwise, they quit after the first radical statement.

[Morten]

https://youtu.be/-cZ5gGloYa8

 

CIA can make a plot to dipose of some dictator. Check out how he acknowledges this but makes sure that it sounds good.

Like oh, well, they did conspire but they did something good! Dictators = bad so CIA are still good guys!

What about the facts that they removed legaly elected presidents of Chile, Allende, to put a dictator, Pinochet, because it suited their interest?

No man or group can exert so much influence over World, but then in previoius videos mentions that Russians conspired to bring Trump to power, thus putting their men effectively at the head of the country exerting the biggest influence over the World.

The video is skewed towards US public and touches on rather "strawman", US territory related, conspiracy theories.

[Adam M]

23 hours ago, Roy said:

I finish all your videos like squeezing every drop of juice out of an orange. Including the few minutes after you say, "Alright, I'm done here.."

Can I has cookie?

Anyways I'm not sure why people get so upset over conspiracy theories, it's held as such a deep attachment that people get defensive over, but it's not like it really matters if it's proven right or wrong because people don't ever do anything about it anyways. It's more of an opinion about what's going on in the world, not an intertwined identity. At least generally.

It's shouldn't be like a religious fundamentalist who obviously should be expected to get upset when challenged, because it's more fundamental to their identity as a self.

idk people are just weird man.

 

The  conspiracy theory (like QAnon) is often mixed in with an apocalyptic narrative such as "the world is gonna end the evil people are taking over unless you stand up for your rights and protest."

So for many, it's not just a theory...its life or death.

Edit: Also, spirituality often ends up mixed in there one way or another...again, its not just a conspiracy theory, it's an entire way of life. 

I've been in close contact with some people who are deeeeep down these rabbit holes and let me tell you, they couldn't recognize systems thinking if it beat them over the head with a bat.

As Leo says, these people are generally too lazy to actually build a conscious worldview so they take on the identity of a conspiracy theorist or a "truth seeker" and hold it as ideology.

I once read a whole post of some QANON girl talking about how socialism will turn the west into Venezuela (classic). For some reason, I sent her a good 15 hours of video sources that clearly explain otherwise and she said it was too long for her to watch... *facepalm*

Edited October 6, 2020 by Adam M

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, Morten said:

Like oh, well, they did conspire but they did something good! Dictators = bad so CIA are still good guys!

I never said the CIA are good guys.

Every major national intelligence agency plots against other nations. This is no conspiracy. This is business as usual. Yes, warfare involves secrecy and classified information. These are all systemic forces, not conspiracies of evil.

[lmfao]

On 05/10/2020 at 2:05 AM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Good chart, it's a little misleading with the yellow category though. I think a lot of people can fall short of what's called here "the antisemitic point of no return" without being "dangerous to yourself and others". 

9/11 conspiracy theories and fake moon landing ( which is in the 4th box) are not on the same tier as people who think 5G is causing Covid, for example.  The latter being an extremely severe violation of epistemology. 

Edited October 7, 2020 by lmfao

[PurpleTree]

On 6.10.2020 at 6:11 AM, Leo Gura said:

I never said the CIA are good guys.

Every major national intelligence agency plots against other nations. This is no conspiracy. This is business as usual. Yes, warfare involves secrecy and classified information. These are all systemic forces, not conspiracies of evil.

That's what some people understand under conspiracy theories though.

Also these "agencies" probably "muddy the waters" with silly theories like flat earth etc. so that people are more and more confused with what's real. 

[Consept]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Also these "agencies" probably "muddy the waters" with silly theories like flat earth etc.

Theres people that genuinely believe flat earth, i know some personally. They would be offended if you said the theory was planted by agencies. Also this is really speculation, we dont know that agencies planted theories like this and how would they know this one would stick 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Also these "agencies" probably "muddy the waters" with silly theories like flat earth etc. so that people are more and more confused with what's real. 

Nice conspiricizing there.

Maybe it's you -- the devil -- who is muddying all the waters? Ever consider that?

The CIA doesn't need to muddy the waters when the people are so naturally stupid by default.

[Recursoinominado]

On 04/10/2020 at 9:28 PM, Leo Gura said:

Isn't that obvious

Well, i don't know how accurate this metric is, i rarely watch a full 2h video in one sitting. Usually, i divide it into two or three chunks, i download it with YT Premium to listen offline or from your website. 

[Conscious life]

conspiracy theory video is good. but some of the things he said on pedophile is simply projecting his thoughts outside, without deeply catalyze it, expecting or wishing to be accepted. he didn't say it from his inside truth, he simply project without deeply believing or thinking about it. that's what I feel, while he speaking.