Heavy metal detox without DMSA

[Bojan]

Can you detox your body with just exercise, eating vegetables and drinking green tea or is DMSA required? 

Can Omega 3 contain heavy metals? 

Edited October 2, 2020 by Bojan

[narkuser]

@Bojan You need a chelator like DMSA, and also ALA (Alpha lipoic acid). But they must be used following a protocol or taking them can be very dangerous. Research the Andy Cutler protocol. Heavy metals like mercury get stuck in tissues and won't be expelled from the body even after a lifetime.

For Omega 3 supplements, some brands specify that they test their product so it doesn't contain dangerous levels.

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Bojan said:

Can you detox your body with just exercise, eating vegetables and drinking green tea

No

Those vegetables are filled with toxic chemicals to boot. And probably so is your green tea.

[herghly]

@Bojan I've heard people suggest sauna / steam rooms are good for detoxing

[LfcCharlie4]

@herghly and they’re all closed right now due to Covid, at least where I am they are ? 

If you have the money, a sauna is a great investment when you buy a property, the research on it is so promising on how beneficial it is. 
 

@Leo Gura can you link your detox routine / make a post or video on it mate, as it’s helped you so much, cheers!

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

 

@Leo Gura can you link your detox routine / make a post or video on it mate, as it’s helped you so much, cheers!

It's too complex to link. I plan to release a video about it at some point when I am done experimenting. Not ready to talk about it yet.

[Michael569]

21 hours ago, Bojan said:

Can you detox your body with just exercise, eating vegetables and drinking green tea or is DMSA required? 

Your body is ALWAYS detoxing. You'd be dead by now if it wasn't. If you have excessive occupational toxin exposure, that's another story such as if you are a blacksmith, smelter, car painter who doesn't use a respirator, work in ammunition factory etc. Most people who assume they are toxic are not, they just need to fix the diet and start moving around more. The brain fog can often be lifted by doing just that. 

In extreme cases where toxicity is relevant and tested, it is good so look up for professional support to prevent harming yourself. Also, you should always always always start with optimising your gut & kidney function if you are going to be sending a shitstorm through otherwise you are asking for a lot of trouble. 

[Bojan]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No

Those vegetables are filled with toxic chemicals to boot. And probably so is your green tea.

Of course, what was I? 

This leaves me thinking that white rice, bananas, beans, vitamins and maybe peeled vegetables are the only way to stay away from toxic chemicals. 

I ate a lot of canned tuna and macarel in my life, went through a phase where I thought fish to be healthy so I just ate those tunas for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Veggies are certainly full of pesticides. But the biggest hit is every time I inhale paint, I lose energy and strength and heavy metals from the paint are probably responsible for that.

I must detox with Andrew Cutlers protocol as soon as possible. 

[Villager Albert]

I'm no expert but you don't need DMSA unless you have a serious buildup of heavy metals. Sweating is probably the best way to detoxify yourself so exercising and saunas are awesome. I've heard water fasting also is great. From supplements, the most effective ones I found are spirulina, liposomal glutathione, Omega 3, vit C, activated charcoal, glycine and NAC, you might wanna look into them.

[Leo Gura]

If you develop a solid detox protocol, then one of the upsides is that you don't have to worry about eating toxic food as much because you now have a regular and easy way to detox it.

It's basically a must for all people because you can't avoid heavy metals in food and water even if you are extra careful. The solution is not to eat perfectly, but to develop a good detox protocol.

If you gonna eat a big meal of fish, just take a teaspoon of zeolite alongside it to mop up the heavy metals.

[Lyubov]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

If you develop a solid detox protocol, then one of the upsides is that you don't have to worry about eating toxic food as much because you now have a regular and easy way to detox it.

It's basically a must for all people because you can't avoid heavy metals in food and water even if you are extra careful. The solution is not to eat perfectly, but to develop a good detox protocol.

If you gonna eat a big meal of fish, just take a teaspoon of zeolite alongside it to mop up the heavy metals.

I was about to ask. I'm cutting tuna out but I still rely heavily on salmon for nutrients and was wondering if there is a counter detox balance of other foods and supplements that can catch the metals and stuff during digestion. 

[mikelyons]

@Leo Gura I've been looking for a list of reliable sources for detox methods, there doesn't seem to be 1 solid thread I can share with friends and family who are interested.

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, Lyubov said:

I still rely heavily on salmon for nutrients

This is a bad idea.

Every pound of salmon contains a daily dose of mercury poisoning.

Replace that salmon with chicken or something else.

Fish should only be eaten occasionally. You can't rely on it heavily.

4 hours ago, mikelyons said:

@Leo Gura I've been looking for a list of reliable sources for detox methods, there doesn't seem to be 1 solid thread I can share with friends and family who are interested.

I am testing various protocols and will share once my research is complete.

It is too complicated to just share with random people. Detox protocols are serious things for serious people. They have to be done rigorously or you will make things worse.

[Username]

@Leo Gura  What about sardines?

- They are smaller so they accumulate less crap

- You are eating a whole thing. Sardines contain a lot of selenium which blocks absorption of mercury

- Fish contain much more Carnosine meat - it to removes plaque from brain

- Fish also contains omega 3 fats which is good because I helps to maintain proper omega 6/3 ratio.

Also my impression is that people living near sea / on islands are often living longer. It seems that replacing meat with fish might be a good idea.

[Hello from Russia]

9 minutes ago, Username said:

- They are smaller so they accumulate less crap

Man, this is backwards logic. You will eat a ton of them to make up for the size and will have the same exposure

Flax seeds and flax oil has the best known content of omega 3, it just isn't advertised nearly as much as fish for various reasons

For selenium you can eat 2-3 brazil nuts to get your full daily dosage. You literally only need 20-30 nuts per month - compare how cheap it is compared to buying a fish. Same with Flax seeds, they are fairly cheap as well

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Also my impression is that people living near sea / on islands are often living longer.

Sea towns tend to have better ecology and air. I actually moved recently to a sea town, it's way better ecology here. It seems that  people here have the same poor dietary choices as anywhere else, but It seems that nature makes up for it, people for sure look healthier

Edited October 4, 2020 by Hello from Russia

[Username]

@Hello from Russia Smaller mass means that it takes less time to grow to full size => less time to accumulate any pollution.

Sardines and mackerels aren't more expensive than meat. You can eat them instead of using fish oil capsules. Flax has ALA which isn't an alternative for fish oil.

[Michael569]

1 hour ago, Hello from Russia said:

Man, this is backwards logic. You will eat a ton of them to make up for the size and will have the same exposure

It is actually true what @Username said. The difference is exponential as you go from tiny sardines to large tuna. It's not like twice as much, more like 500time as much. This is because tuna actually eats other fish while sardines only eat plants, maybe some tiny shrimps (not sure about that). Over the life of the fish, the large fish accumulate much more heavy metal in their tissue so gram for gram the difference of contamination is very significant. Tuna also lives much longer than sardine so when you compare 100g of sardine and 100g of tuna you may be comparing 8 months of life vs 3 years of life, imagine how much more tuna eats in that time.  And most people would not eat more than 50-100g of sardines per session because they are bony, oily and quite frankly not that super tasty. Were you can eat 200g of tuna no problem because it has no specific taste, no bones and goes nicely with everything. It is also super cheap

1 hour ago, Hello from Russia said:

lax seeds and flax oil has the best known content of omega 3, it just isn't advertised nearly as much as fish for various reasons

Only Alpha-Linolenic Acid (ALA) though, you need to convert that down to EPA & DHA which is extremely inefficient especially in men. The benefit of fish is that it also contains EPA & DHA however it has to be balanced with mercury which is why small fish like sardines are actually helpful. Or you can take algae oil. 

It is always helpful to break down what Omega 3 actually man that it is not just one thing but actually 6 different fatty acids. 

1 hour ago, Username said:

Also my impression is that people living near sea / on islands are often living longer. It seems that replacing meat with fish might be a good idea.

if you base that on Mediterranean diet & environment, don't forget that these people are less stressed, get more sunshine, eat more fresh fruits & vegetables, socialise, move and drink less. The sea is also a source of natural antioxidants which have an effect as well. The fish are just a cherry on the cake. 

[mandyjw]

Your own body has intelligence and intuition that science doesn't have yet, especially not tailored to you. When you start cutting out and demonizing  huge categories of food (like carbs for example ) you not only cut yourself off from your bodies intuition, but you basically cripple your ability to eat a varied diet and eat food in moderation. Go to the super market with beginner's eyes every once in a while, don't get stuck in a food rut and you likely won't accumulate high amounts of any one toxin to cause issues. 

 

 

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Username said:

@Leo Gura  What about sardines?

- They are smaller so they accumulate less crap

- You are eating a whole thing. Sardines contain a lot of selenium which blocks absorption of mercury

- Fish contain much more Carnosine meat - it to removes plaque from brain

- Fish also contains omega 3 fats which is good because I helps to maintain proper omega 6/3 ratio.

Also my impression is that people living near sea / on islands are often living longer. It seems that replacing meat with fish might be a good idea.

Look man, you're gambling with your brain. Up to you.

Yes, they contain less mercury than salmon. But if you are eating them every day, it will add up. Stomach absorbs 80% of mercury. Then it gets lodged in your brain.

[Joel3102]

What about seaweed in sushi?