Leo, what is your view on porn and masturbation when pursuing higher conciousness?

[Danioover9000]

@lmfao

35 minutes ago, lmfao said:

Can confirm that this is factually accurate. 

If you ever try and force your penis to the limit of edging, porn, desensitisation,you'll end up in the zombie state. Not a place you want to be. 

 

Also, even if Leo says porn is fine, that's just like, his opinion man. It's up to you.

I know that for myself that my porn use is an addiction and not purely a function of "nature" , so that should be enough for anyone considering to do nofap. 

In practice I don't do nofap. I do "less fap" 

 

I have heard Leo validate the existence of porn addiction before in his addiction video. Idk what it's been like on this forum. 

   Yes, edging too much does get you into that 'zombie' state, but for advanced spiritual practitioners, this state acts like a transitionary phase to go into that sexual and love orgasm, if done correctly. Of course, practice needed.

   Less fap is more accurate for the beginners. It's usually the guilt trip after a relapse that guarantees more relapses, so a more light hearted way of semen retention is needed more. That's why meditation with this practice is good.

   Well, about 4 years back there were a few long threads about Nofap, one of those main users being Shine, so Leo had ample time to dedicate just a few vids on how sexuality and spirituality are connected, but for whatever reasons, he didn't go forward with that.

   For me, the regular occurrences of illness close to my sex binges, my laziness, brain fog and feverishness, painful testicles, I finally decided to give it a go, If anyone also is suffering from P.O.I.S. then that's another valid cause for the Nofap trail runs.

Edited October 4, 2020 by Danioover9000

[AtheisticNonduality]

The entire concept of this is just bizarre to me. Will not jerking off make you more energetic and hornier? Sure. Is it worth doing with extremely long periods of time? Probably not.

[Danioover9000]

@AtheisticNonduality

4 minutes ago, AtheisticNonduality said:

The entire concept of this is just bizarre to me. Will not jerking off make you more energetic and hornier? Sure. Is it worth doing with extremely long periods of time? Probably not.

    Have you tried not jerking off for long periods of time?

[Lyubov]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@AtheisticNonduality

    Have you tried not jerking off for long periods of time?

I have. It's unpleasant and feels like repression of a natural bodily function. 

like holding in a giant turd. 

[AtheisticNonduality]

35 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

I have. It's unpleasant and feels like repression of a natural bodily function. 

like holding in a giant turd. 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Jacob Morres]

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Stop watching PornHub. Buy quality porn.

Links?? Lmaooo 

[Leo Gura]

You guys are so obsessed with porn and fapping. More than me.

[Leo Gura]

A Zen story:

Quote

A senior monk and a junior monk were traveling together. At one point, they came to a river with a strong current. As the monks were preparing to cross the river, they saw a very young and beautiful woman also attempting to cross. The young woman asked if they could help her cross to the other side.

The two monks glanced at one another because they had taken vows not to touch a woman.

Then, without a word, the older monk picked up the woman, carried her across the river, placed her gently on the other side, and carried on his journey.

The younger monk couldn’t believe what had just happened. After rejoining his companion, he was speechless, and an hour passed without a word between them.

Two more hours passed, then three, finally the younger monk could contain himself any longer, and blurted out "As monks, we are not permitted a woman, how could you then carry that woman on your shoulders?"

The older monk looked at him and replied, "Brother, I set her down on the other side of the river, why are you still carrying her?"

 

[erik8lrl]

@Leo Gura Perfect story lol.

[Martin123]

@erik8lrl

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

A Zen story:

 

It’s only a perfect story to avoid addressing the issue properly and dismiss it as our and everyone else’s problem, rather than Leo’s responsibility for what he be saying here. 

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Martin123 said:

@erik8lrl

It’s only a perfect story to avoid addressing the issue properly and dismiss it as our and everyone else’s problem, rather than Leo’s responsibility for what he be saying here. 

If you can't use porn responsibly, then don't use it.

Is this not obvious? Must daddy Leo tie your hands behind your back?

It's like you want me to agree with your no-fap stance, and I just don't care about micromanaging your dick. Other than to say that if you are gonna consume porn, consume good porn.

[Rasheed]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

If you can't use porn responsibly, then don't use it.

Is this not obvious? Must daddy Leo tie your hands behind your back?

It's like you want me to agree with your no-fap stance, and I just don't care about micromanaging your dick. Other than to say that if you are gonna consume porn, consume good porn.

What is good porn? Define it. We do not know. You are speaking way too abstract.

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Rasheed said:

What is good porn? Define it. We do not know. You are speaking way too abstract.

High quality porn with some artistry behind it.

Figure it out. To me, nudity is art.

[Rasheed]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

High quality porn with some artistry behind it.

Figure it out.

Where you find that? Do you advise watching full 30min video? That is even on pornhub. What is even meant by artistry in porn . People wanna know. Can't just say figure it out.

 

Edited October 5, 2020 by Rasheed

[Rolo]

@Leo Gura like art?

[Rasheed]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

To me, nudity is art.

That means, any porn will go because nudity is in every single porn. So this makes every porn good??????? 

What is good porn? Should people watch specific actresses? Buy porn when it's free? What are you trying to say bro?

[Thestarguitarist14]

5 minutes ago, Rasheed said:

That means, any porn will go because nudity is in every single porn. So this makes every porn good??????? 

What is good porn? Should people watch specific actresses? Buy porn when it's free? What are you trying to say bro?

Ever seen Boogie Nights?

[Rasheed]

4 minutes ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

Ever seen Boogie Nights

No

[ajai]

8 minutes ago, Rasheed said:

That means, any porn will go because nudity is in every single porn. So this makes every porn good??????? 

What is good porn? Should people watch specific actresses? Buy porn when it's free? What are you trying to say bro?

Here you go

Helped me during quarantine while I contemplated over the same question, ethical porn is what Leo want to say imo.

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You guys are so obsessed with porn and fapping. More than me.

You saw that coming, lol???

Edited October 5, 2020 by ajai

[Lyubov]

3 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

Links?? Lmaooo 

I like Vixen and Blacked 

it’s high quality and they have decent work place standards