Donald Trump has tested positive for COVID-19

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Parththakkar12 said:

Out of curiosity, why?

Because when you demonize people or groups it makes you look ignorant.

What's needed is a clinical description, not a moralistic one.

When you say "Socialists are evil" or "Republicans are evil" or "Rapists are evil" this makes you look dumb.

[DocWatts]

So what are the chances that if Trump survives this and goes on to lose the election that he actually gets prosecuted for his numerous crimes? 

One in ten? One in a thousand?

[Parththakkar12]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because when you demonize people or groups it makes you look ignorant.

What's needed is a clinical description, not a moralistic one.

Does looking smart and well put-together and competent matter in politics? Or is it just about who can radicalize their base more? Will we need to fight fire with fire in Trump's case?

Edited October 2, 2020 by Parththakkar12

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

So what are the chances that if Trump survives this and goes on to lose the election that he actually gets prosecuted for his numerous crimes? 

One in ten? One in a thousand?

Hard to say.

Supposedly there are some juicy cases brewing against him.

But I wouldn't hold my breath on him actually getting prison time.

[DocWatts]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Hard to say.

Supposedly there are some juicy cases brewing against him.

But I wouldn't hold my breath on him actually getting prison time.

The former mayor of Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick, actually ended up serving time in prison for his crimes while in office. So it doesn't strike me as impossible, just really unlikely in Trump's case, since Kwame wasn't a multi millionaire like Trump is (despite the fact that he's likely broke, I have no doubt he still has formidable resources at his disposal to fight a prosecution). 

Edited October 2, 2020 by DocWatts

[Parththakkar12]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

When you say "Socialists are evil" or "Republicans are evil" or "Rapists are evil" this makes you look dumb.

How about 'Trump is evil'? Give a list of all his crimes in the debate and call him evil! You could actually get away with calling him a Satan incarnate or something. It will make you look dumb, but it will really motivate non-voters to go and vote against him.

We may just need to use radicalization tactics to really motivate our side to vote him out. We're manipulating people's hatred towards him to really beat him in this way.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Parththakkar12

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

And Blue-Christians love to demonize stuff, so turning it against Trump and use Blue triggers

Evangelicals are all-in for Trump. You ain't gonna convince them. Especially now with this Supreme Court pick.

But if you really want to be precise with Christian terminology, then the most appropriate label is: Anti-Christ

Trump is the Anti-Christ. But of course the Christians are so deluded that they have taken the Anti-Christ as their savior. And you will never convince them of it because they have sold their soul to the devil long ago.

[mandyjw]

The Devil is a powerful placeholder for fear in the Christian psyche. 

This helps to understand what's really going on there. 

Edited October 2, 2020 by mandyjw
Fixed it.

[DocWatts]

I've got nothing but respect for Christians I know who actually practice what they preach, and have been able to integrate that in a healthy way with the modern secular world. Not sure if anyone else is friends with left leaning progressive Christians, or if that's a bit of an anomaly in the current climate.

[Member]

[Sempiternity]

14 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

So what are the chances that if Trump survives this and goes on to lose the election that he actually gets prosecuted for his numerous crimes? 

One in ten? One in a thousand?

There's the tax evasion, the money laundering, the stealing from charities, and not to mention the treason. The New York prosecutors have been sitting charges that have been pending for years, the IRS has audits and most likely charges waiting for him. Basically everyone is just waiting for his immunity to end, and they'll come at him with dozens and dozens of charges. Probability ..high.

[Enlightenment]

[No Self]

10 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

Even though I'm quite certain a narrative pushed by whatever news outlet they consume would have told them its good for their agenda. 

From what I understand, many of these people are uneducated, single-issue voters. Abortion, abortion, abortion. Nothing else matters.

Also, they operate in a flock so will take instructions from leadership. This is also what makes them so powerful in a democratic system. 

[Apparition of Jack]

Really liking the Emperor’s new clothes this time of year  

[Amadeusz]

I want to ask: where's the love? I know that trump is the devil, but who isn't? I feel a little bit of uhealthy hatred here towards Trump.

Edited October 2, 2020 by Amadeusz

[Opo]

5 minutes ago, Keyhole said:

@Amadeusz The hatred is absolutely justified.

The people who hate black people think the same thing. 

[mandyjw]

19 minutes ago, Amadeusz said:

I want to ask: where's the love? I know that trump is the devil, but who isn't? I feel a little bit of uhealthy hatred here towards Trump.

If you project the devil outward you can keep fearing it. If you love the devil you have to intimately accept that the devil is you. 

[Willie]

23 minutes ago, Amadeusz said:

I want to ask: where's the love? I know that trump is the devil, but who isn't? I feel a little bit of uhealthy hatred here towards Trump.

It may seem a bit much, but it’s necessary. Trump has consistently shown throughout his life, not only this past year, that he is incapable of empathizing. Losing in the polls, having his tax returns leaked, and catching COVID-19 all in quick succession are all good things for him. Those who lack empathy do all they can to manipulate and stay on top, but eventually they suffer too like everyone they affected along the way. In Trump’s case, it’s happening very bigly.

[Opo]

5 minutes ago, Keyhole said:

@Opo Are you serious? 

get out of here.

That's such a terrible example I'm embarrassed for you and you should be embarrassed too.

Literally the same. 

They ignore the environment of black people and just focus on the final results. 

You are doing the same thing. 

Trump is the way he is because he grew up in a toxic environment. His father wanted to make a sociopath out of his child and he sadly succeeded. 

You can read more about it, it will be eye opening. 

Trump was once an innocent child and if you grew up in the same environment you would be the same. 

[Nahm]

Where am I?