What Stage is Dan Pena?

[Focus Shift]

What stage of SD do you think Dan Pena is? He strikes be as very strongly orange, with perhaps a dash of the previous ages as well. 

[Dryas]

Lol what was that

[Preety_India]

That looks like typical stage orange. They have that go hard mindset 

 

[Carl-Richard]

Orange to the bone.

[aurum]

@Focus Shift

Definitely some combo of orange / blue / red.

[Leo Gura]

Everyone knows you buy happiness at the Zen store.

[Focus Shift]

@Leo Gura

[Roy]

5 hours ago, neutralempty said:

Hopelessly Orange.

 

[Focus Shift]

Also, I should add, I don't personally agree with the statements made. There are limits to materialism for materialism's sake. However, it can still be useful to use orange as motivation to become self reliant and move out of your parents' house for instance

[fridjonk]

His foundation is very red/blue. He grew up in a harsh environment filled with violence, where he had to be tough to survive. 

So he's basically a walking devil. 

[docs20]

60% Red
30% Orange
10% Blue

[Parththakkar12]

I'd say healthy Red, Blue and Orange. The whole 'go hard' thing is very Orange/Red.

He does have this unbelievably strong drive for power and money, like nothing else matters. The whole willingness to insult people, call them bums, etc. comes from a Stage Red space. The way he talks is very Stage Red, where it's like 'Nothing matters. If I think you're a loser, I'm gonna tell you to your face that you are. No morality, no playing nice.'

He has some heart and he looks super passionate about chasing money and power. I'm struggling to find bad things to say about him tbh.

[Carl-Richard]

4 hours ago, docs20 said:

60% Red
30% Orange
10% Blue

Calm down a bit there with the Red. He isn't riding horses into cities and chopping people's head off and raping the children.

[Parththakkar12]

One thing about these Stage Orange types who talk about 'tough love' and 'You are a loser because you deserve it!!!!' types - It's all good and fine to want to set goals. The issue with them is that they let success/failure define them.

They will say things like 'You will never get anything better than what you aim for'. This is true, except for one exception - You don't define your life by your goals. You set the goal as an intention and then you fall in love with the growth process, as opposed to seeing the process as a means to an end. In this case, you can achieve a lot more than what you intend to achieve. Because, the movement you're creating isn't a taking movement anymore, it is a receiving movement, which is much more open, vulnerable and trusting of the universe. What you can get is not limited to what you can imagine in this case.

When you say 'You are a loser because you deserve it', you are kicking someone when they're down. This is not tough love. This is bullying. Maybe it is tough love from a Stage Red perspective, where there are no rules and it's just pure dog-eat-dog. But, the higher stages have a conscience.